Memo to Cruz and Kasich...the fat lady's warming up

2016 Republican Presidential Nomination USA Today/Suffolk: Trump 45%, Cruz 29%, Kasich 17% Trump +16
Pennsylvania Republican Presidential Primary - PPP: Trump 51%, Cruz 25%, Kasich 22% Trump +26
Connecticut Republican Presidential Primary - PPP: Trump 59%, Kasich 25%, Cruz 13% Trump +34
Connecticut Republican Presidential Primary - Gravis: Trump 54%, Kasich 27%, Cruz 9% Trump +27
Rhode Island Republican Presidential Primary - PPP: Trump 61%, Kasich 23%, Cruz 13% Trump +38
Rhode Island Republican Presidential Primary - Gravis: Trump 58%, Kasich 21%, Cruz 10% Trump +37
Maryland Republican Presidential Primary - Gravis: Trump 53%, Kasich 24%, Cruz 22% Trump +29
Indiana Republican Presidential Primary - FOX: Trump 41%, Cruz 33%, Kasich 16% Trump +8
Indiana Republican Presidential Primary - WTHR/Howey: Trump 37%, Cruz 31%, Kasich 22% Trump +6
California Republican Presidential Primary - FOX: Trump 49%, Cruz 22%, Kasich 20% Trump +27

www.realclearpolitics.com...

I know this is going to be very hard to swallow for the new Cruz/Kasich colludilition (newly coined term), and for the Trump haters everywhere...but American voters are rallying behind the man who wants to win by getting their votes - as opposed to by dirty back room tricks.

Who woulda thought?

I sincerely hope that both of them go down in flames and disappear into obscurity. Both are all too happy to thwart the will of the people because they are so thirsty to sit in the WH... Neither of them deserve it and in the end, neither of them will have it.

This is not good reading for the Trump haters, especially the Cruz supporters. He is dropping like a stone after he unmasked as an establishment insider and political game player.

I suspect Cruz and Kasich last hope will be to hold delegates from Trump in Indiana and as many districts in the other upcoming primaries that they can, then play games at the convention. I am not sure the GOP have really thought this through though. Cruz is going to have 700-750 delegates maximum come the convention compared to Trump's 1150-1200 (ish) and Kasich is only going to be barely past Rubio! Can you imagine Kaisch being nominated having won 1 of 50 states! Hilarious.

Ted Cruz's epic rant. A simple question answered with a outpouring of insecurity, bitterness and self delusion.
The below is his answer to one question!

For those interested he used 1,051 words to answer the 3 sentence question.

His answer was so long , HBO are releasing it as a mini series and the book rights are now being negotiated.

REPORTER: Respectfully, sir, how is it not collusion? What do you say to those people who say that it’s collusion? Donald Trump is saying that you are colluding and we expect to hear from him again and again.

CRUZ: I understand that Donald will whine. That’s what he does. Donald is a sore loser. When he lost five states in a low in landslide elections, Donald through a tantrum. His response is to attack the voters. His response is to attack the people. Yes, I get that the Trump campaign is scared. They’re scared of Indiana. If Donald wasn’t scared, he’d show up in Indiana and have a debate. But he would much rather hide in Trump Tower. He’d much rather stay in northeastern states that tend to be more liberal than actually come to the Midwest, come to the heartland and defend his policies. The past week Donald Trump agreed with Hillary Clinton on raising taxes. In the past week Donald Trump came out and agreed with Hillary Clinton that adult grown men should be able to go into little girls restrooms. And in the past week, Donald Trump’s campaign manager, who is a long-time Washington lobbyist, and this is important for people to understand, the entire Trump campaign is run by Washington lobbyists. it is the Washington cartel. It is the lobbyists who are running his campaign. His lobbyist campaign manager went and talked to the top brass of the RNC and said Donald is just putting on an act. This is a role he’s playing. He’s just on stage. He’s just pretending. He doesn’t mean what he said. Now, at first the Trump camp denied that. That’s their standard is to deny everything. Unfortunately for them, it was actually caught on tape, so we have the tape of Donald Trump’s lobbyist campaign manager saying this is all an act, this is all a fake, he’s a phony. Interestingly enough, that’s almost the exact same thing Donald Trump told “The New York Times” back in January when he sat down with “The New York Times” editorial board. Trump told them he doesn’t believe what he’s saying on immigration, he’s not going to build a wall, he’s not going to deport anyone. Once again, “The New York Times” has a tape. Now, the Trump campaign denies he says that but won’t let “The Times” release the tape. If he didn’t say he’s not going to build a wall, he’s not going to deport anyone and he’s simply faking it on immigration, then Donald should release the tape. His supporters should demand that he release the tape and prove his innocence. Donald won’t do that for the same reason that he won’t show up at a debate. because this is a fraud that the lobbyists in Washington are attempting to perpetuate on the American people. This is a fraud. The stakes are too high for us to get fooled again. And we’re all used to politicians who betray us after they get elected. Donald is betraying us before he gets elected and he’s telling us he’s lying to us. And so we are fighting to beat Donald Trump for the nomination. We are going to beat Donald Trump for the nomination. No one is getting to 1237, we’re headed to a contested convention. And at that convention the nominee will be decided by whoever can earn the support of a majority of the delegates elected by the people. And I believe the only candidate who will be able to do that is me. And when we earn the support of a majority of the delegates we’re going to go forward and beat Hillary Clinton in November. Donald can’t — it would be a disaster for Republicans, for conservatives and for the country. And, yes, I understand that the Trump campaign is going to scream and cry. That’s what they do. whining is what they do. because you notice, it is never, ever, ever Donald’s fault. Can anyone think of any instance when Donald has ever said he’s done anything wrong? It does not appear that he thinks that’s possible, that Donald could do something wrong. So it’s always the voters’ fault. It’s always the people’s fault. It’s always somebody else’s fault. But Donald J. Trump you know what, we need a president who understands the principle of the buck stops here. Donald Trump needs to learn to take some responsibility for and if he wants to make the case, show up and debate. Don’t hide behind your media surrogates. Because you’re terrified of scrutiny. Answer the questions from the voters. Have it be a town hall, real Hoosiers asking real questions about real problems. And if Donald is too terrified to answer the questions asked by the people of Indiana, how on earth is he going to stand on a debate stage with Hillary Clinton. If he’s scared of the voters now, how bad do you think he would be in a general election. and by the way, we’ve all seen a candidate in a general election who’s a loose cannon who will say any given thing on any given day. Who will wake up one day and say as Donald trump did that he thinks women should be punished for having abortions. That’s an absurd position. — Every day if Donald Trump were the nominee, we would see a circus of loose cannon statements that he tries to walk back the next day. d that would result in disaster for Republicans across the country. Now, I get that Hillary Clinton would be thrilled to see the Donald Trump train wreck in the general election. I get that the media, the network execs in just about every network are card-carrying Democrats, they are ready for Hillary. Nothing would thrill them more than a bloodbath that elects Hillary Clinton and gets great ratings while it’s happening. That is the perfect storm from a media network executive’s view, but it is a terrible outcome for the people. And this election is going to be decided by the people. And the Hoosier state, the entire country, its eyes are on this great state to choose between path do we want to go down. Do we want to go down the path of nominating a candidate whose entire campaign platform consists of yelling and screaming and cursing and insulting anyone and everyone it can find. Or do we want instead a positive, optimistic, forward-looking conservative campaign with real policy solutions to the challenges facing this country.

a reply to: UKTruth

When I hear anyone ramble on and on like that, I always think they must be very nervous. Or lying.

a reply to: UKTruth

I don't know, maybe I missed it, but when in all that did he answer the question please lol

Gawds I can't stand that slimy rat Cruz.

I love this Fat Lady! I hope she has Lyrics that curse Cruz and Kasich out, as the curtain comes down. Why the hell would they want to be President of the People, when the People don't want them! Such arseholes..the both of them.

Well you heard it from the horse's mouth. Cruz and Kasich think they know better than American People and have taken matters into their own hands. If that's how you want decisions made by your future president, then vote for them!

originally posted by: Kangaruex4Ewe
I sincerely hope that both of them go down in flames and disappear into obscurity. Both are all too happy to thwart the will of the people because they are so thirsty to sit in the WH... Neither of them deserve it and in the end, neither of them will have it.

Right on. Any respect I had for Kasich has now gone out the window. Cruz could have dropped out of the race , watch Trump lose to Hillary and prepare for the 2020 presidential election cycle. When it comes to the GOP Primary Race the lunatics are running the asylum. IMO Trump never expected to get this far and this reflected in his policy stances (e.g Wall with Mexico.) and how he was caught out by the delegates game.

a reply to: xpert11


Yes indeed. Cruz is only 45 years old. He has several opportunities ahead to run for President. Not so for Kasich, but for either of them to intentionally sabotage the Republican chances of winning the White House this fall is inexcusable.

Many people thought that Donald Trump was in cahoots with the Democratic Party, to throw the election Hillary. Now we have to strongly consider that it's not Trump who's in cahoots, but Cruz and Kasich.

a reply to: xpert11

I don't think he expected it to catch fire like it did either. Nobody did. It was just the right time for someone to step up and the numbers are proving that out. I think he was absolutely shocked at his success in the beginning.

I could have been fine with Kasich had he not started talking about taking it at the convention a while back. Then he comes out last week and blatantly states that he has "friends" on the rules committee of the RNC like he's some sort of Don Corleone and has it in the bag. Then this. This circus of impenetrable ignorance of tag teaming the voters choice to come in just shy of 1237 so it can be stolen in the last quarter is disgusting.

They both lack the common sense to realize that they will absolutely lose the election if they succeed in usurping the nod and the party will be annihilated in the process.

The party's only chance at salvation is to go with Trump, rally around him, help him, and let it all ride. That way the party may survive and they may not lose extra seats in other upcoming elections. I am not sure if they are fully aware of how serious the people are or if they are just ok with taking the chance.

a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

For all intensive purposes the GOP are right royally screwed. Voters would rightfully turn away from Cruz or any other nominee who gets inserted at the Convention. This is why despite polling I think Cruz would do worse in the popular vote than Trump in the coming match up against Clinton. Going with Trump and preventing the Dems from gaining control of both houses of Congress would be a difficult task. Yet any other road runs the risk of 30-35% of the GOP supporter base or in other words Trump supporters staying at home on election day.

It is true like many people I never expected Trump to get this far. That said I can't see any path that takes him or another GOP candidate to the White House. Both Cruz and Trump are disliked by most people expect for their core supporter bases. Kasich has no nation wide appeal at all.

a reply to: UKTruth

What a hot mess of rambling by Cruz. Some constitutionalist, he forgets that "We the People" bit when it comes to saving his political hide. Notice how he now suckles at the teat of the RNC and GOP leadership?

originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: UKTruth

What a hot mess of rambling by Cruz. Some constitutionalist, he forgets that "We the People" bit when it comes to saving his political hide. Notice how he now suckles at the teat of the RNC and GOP leadership?

Cruz, at times, looks and sounds like a man on the edge of a breakdown. In his dillusional world, the people and the RNC love him, want him to be President...he comes from behind at the Convention, and is crowned the victor in front of thousands of screaming and adoring Cruz-ites.

Then...he goes on to beat Hillary Clinton in a landslide, and becomes the lost beloved President of all time. They build a stone monument in his likeness (the horror!) in DC larger and grander than Lincoln's. He has his face (oh, the humanity!) on the one, five, ten and twenty dollar bills...

Wake up Raphael...it's just a dream, and a nightmare that the people do not want to live through!

originally posted by: mobiusmale

originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: UKTruth

What a hot mess of rambling by Cruz. Some constitutionalist, he forgets that "We the People" bit when it comes to saving his political hide. Notice how he now suckles at the teat of the RNC and GOP leadership?

Cruz, at times, looks and sounds like a man on the edge of a breakdown. In his dillusional world, the people and the RNC love him, want him to be President...he comes from behind at the Convention, and is crowned the victor in front of thousands of screaming and adoring Cruz-ites.

Then...he goes on to beat Hillary Clinton in a landslide, and becomes the lost beloved President of all time. They build a stone monument in his likeness (the horror!) in DC larger and grander than Lincoln's. He has his face (oh, the humanity!) on the one, five, ten and twenty dollar bills...

Wake up Raphael...it's just a dream, and a nightmare that the people do not want to live through!

I think you are right, he does seem to be on the edge of a mental breakdown.
Those close to him should encourage him to step out of the race and seek some help.

This doesn't make me feel triumphant, it just makes me sad. The best, the best the GOP had to offer, was one Donald J. Drumpf. -siiiiiiigh-

Reading this thread I had a thought.

What if even this is part of the plan.

Trump has abysmal numbers when it comes to approval ratings.

However, throw in an act of collusion by the two left running against him and it may be enough to raise those numbers in the general election.

I know it sounds crazy. But it's a sound strategy is it not?

"I beat the rigged system, I can beat Hillary. I really am going to do what is right for America. Both wings hate me, so the American people should support me."

Kasich never had a chance. Had he become a front runner the reason he left Congress would have come up again, that he is gay and lived with his aide. Not that it should matter that he is gay but his bible thumping followers would suddenly vanish.

This just in - Trump now at 50% nationally for the first time in the GOP race.
Trump @ 50%

Trump now leads Cruz and Kasich combined... which trashes the views that the GOP have any credible view that they should give the nomination to either.

Donald Trump has reached 50 percent support from Republicans and Republican-leaners nationally for the first time since the beginning of the NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking Poll in late December. This milestone is significant as the 2016 primary heads into its final few weeks of contests, as there has been intense speculation that Trump's support has a ceiling. Though his support has hovered in the high 40s since mid-March, the front-runner had yet to secure half of Republican voters. These results are according to the latest NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking poll conducted online from April 18 to April 24 of 10,707 adults aged 18 and over, including 9,405 registered voters.

a reply to: xpert11

Forgive me... It's for all intents and purposes not intensive purposes Again sorry. Carry on.