Plans for a United States of Europe?

Europe is becoming exactly what the Nazis wanted.

It's been like this for years , all they're doing is finalizing paperwork.

This plan has been around for quite some time, at least 90 years in essence. It seems to have accelerated over the past few years though I must admit. There is a documentay which was made a few years ago that goes in depth with Sir Patrick Moore inroducing the film. Quite new here so dont know how to add videos. Wait this might be how.....

Britain on the brink

a reply to: athousandlives

I'm sure Turkey will have a large role in this. Is it USE (United States of Europe) or RRE (Revived Roman Empire).

a reply to: athousandlives

I would think this'd be popular.

Yay European socialism, right? Yay one-world government, right?

Fight it, my European cousins.

Fight it.

originally posted by: DOCHOLIDAZE1
a reply to: athousandlives

My people and chinese people are not the same, germans and mexicans are not the same, hawians and new zealanders are not the same. why are we being forced into unions? why are we being forced into a new world order?

So let me get this straight...Bosnians and Serbians are not the same? Who'd a thunk it.

"Europeans" have been fighting tribal/cultural battles stretching back thousands of years.
They used to be fought with spears and swords. Then guns. Now with $ and who's the biggest dog in the pack.
No different than anywhere else in the world. No union can succeed there.
Thus, it cannot be forced upon them. Human nature.

Which Laplander is going to heroically thump his chest and cry "I will be there to aid you, brother" and rush off to Bulgaria in their time of need?

Now you understand (I'm sure many of you already did) why ISIS was allowed to emerge, so that a claim for full-blown European security can emerge with compliance from all European people. To get the security, you need deeper and ever-more integration, so ISIS is the bogeyman to scare the compliance out of the peoples.

Britain's referendum isn't. It just a showpiece, a facade of democracy, a mask of illusion. The result is already known and already implemented, it has been for years, All the people of Britain could vote to leave Europe, and the result would still be declared to remain. Don't get me wrong. Britain will vote, but however they vote is irrelevant. The people of Britain are not actually having a say, but they have to make it look as if they are.

The whole new world order philosophy is nothing more than an idea, and it is being forced on us all, even those who think they want it. If it was a new religion it would be rebelled against, but this is what the elites want, and they are having it no matter what the cost to people, to history and legacy. I was going to vote, I am not going to, there's no point.

Once it is seen that Britain voted for it, centralisation of power control will speed up around the world and will see the emergence of the five zones of centralised power, which will ultimately centralise into one world government.

It will be a government that will be fascist and corporate, but the fascism will have emerged long before the one world government is declared. It will emerge with the five centalised world zones. First Europe, then the Americas, then Australasia, and the Asiatics. Consolidation of power will continue until the one world government is ushered in. There is nothing that can be done to stop it. We are entering into another dark age in humanity's history, where society, morals and ethics will be set for you, and you will have to behave as a 'citizen', valued only proportionately for your level of usefulness to their agenda. Free thought and thinking and criticism of the system will be disavowed and dealt with harshly. It will be like living under martial law. The dystopian future you have always feared, is now on the cusp of the new dawn rising yonder above the horizon.

I am coming into my twilight years, and I am glad that I'll only live long enough to see the first implementations of the new world order upon my country, Those of you who are 30 years and younger are going to be living it. You will inherit an hell!

To TPTB (for lack of a better term) the hardest part about having serfs is making sure they still consider you relevant. Never underestimate the power of the LCD.

But what are Americans but a bunch of Europeans (Brits included) ? Its only been a few generations..

Americans of German descent are the greatest ethnic population in the United States. Maybe the underlying power structures were never disconnected all along. Maybe its just one great world-spanning nation pretending to be separate.

originally posted by: nOraKat
But what are Americans

What I don't get is why some Americans sound the alarm when they seem to be fine with what happened in 1776. 13 Separate colonies formed a union.

originally posted by: quercusrex
"Europeans" have been fighting tribal/cultural battles stretching back thousands of years.

Yes, but they also have been mixing and working with each other when they see no reason for a fight.

The people in my country is the result of mixing of local people, Carthaginians, Romans, Suevi, Vandals, Sarmatians, Alans, Visigoths, Buri and Moors.

People's needs in China, New Zealand, Peru, South Africa or Portugal are the same, we should look to what makes us the same instead of looking for what makes us different.

a reply to: athousandlives

Phase 1- create a border less euro zone

Phase 2 - meld all sovereign states into a new Europe wide state (Europa perhaps?) and then cement in and solidify 'no borders.' Continue Muslim takeover of Europe. Continue the establishment of corporate governments.

Phase 3 - Continue to the elimination of boarders across the planet and then eliminate all country names and have continent or regional zone names only. Complete the Muslim take over of Europe and reduction to 2nd world status. Complete the corporitisation of governments across Europe, Asia, the Americas, Oceania and Africa.

Phase 4 - mix black, Asians and whites with the aim of a singular uman (yes I meant uman) race.....with one exception, the elites who of course will remain white, super citizens, and immune to all laws.

Oh fer cryin' outloud....

Yeah, that's right, ain't nobody should join together in force with nobody else, that there's pure red COMMUNISM and stealin' yer freedoms!!!

Y'all separate, stand by yerselfs in yer own home, frick yer neighbor and the rest, it's each man fer himself, and long as he got a gun, he all powerful gainst any goverment.

'Cause a goverment or a nation is really just a nother individual entity, just like you, so the power is all equal n-#.

Get over the propaganda conditioning you to make sure not to bond together, be mutually supportive and forming a force which just might threaten those pulling all the strings.
It sounds like a knee jerk response of fear.

The European countries remain separate countries.
Having trade agreements and allies does not make them the same nation, does not make them suddenly speak the same language, or have the same culture. Take a trip through these countries and see how well those differences have held up faced with all these terrible alliances and mutual support.

a reply to: athousandlives

There are a few, but major, differences between the US and a euro version of the US. The European countries are just like US states. The difference being the EU countries have authority that US states do not (reserved for the federal government).

The big sticking point is how the citizens identify.

In the US we identify by state while overall we identify as American. You have somewhat the same identification in Europe except there is no overall "federal" identification. The link for Europeans is the landmass they are located on - Europe. The US lucked out in that each territory / state over the decades, with a few exceptions, were identified as US. Europe lacks that component.

The closest comparison would be a North American Union. The problem would be self identification. Taking 3 different cultures with their own customs and self identification would be difficult, but not impossible, to overcome.
It reminds me of Star Trek VI, which dealt with the major geopolitical at that time - the collapse of the USSR.

You don't trust me, do you? I don't blame you. If there is to be a brave new world, our generation is going to have the hardest time living in it.

A United States of Europe is possible however the current generations will have the hardest time accepting / adapting to it.

A world government is inevitable.

This story plays to the minds of conspiracy theorists.

It's not going to happen. People are far to different through out the region.
The French unions are not going to listen to a German EU president.
The Greeks are not going to work as hard as a Swedish VP would want.
People are as different as Shiite vs Sunni .

United States of Europe? To do what?

They still brag about how they use their intelligence agencies to spy on citizens and then they communicate this data to other agencies from other countries putting a slight spin on reality.

For example: The EU spy agencies, according to their own bragging admission, label certain people they don't like as homosexuals, or with other "adjectives" aimed at discrediting such people in environments that aren't that tollerant.