Did Jesus die a virgin?

a reply to: AbyshaHurry up an eat your carrot an shut up.
As for Joe..... Ive been to Canada multiple times. Lotta sissies there. High cost of living, and sill useless programs that are worthless.

a reply to: visitedbythem

Your funny. Have you seen any of these supposed miracles or limbs magically growing ? Nope. So you resort to attacking my country and saying there are a bunch of sissies. Oh my lord how offended you have made me. Remember 1812? Probably not because I doubt you know much about history. We stopped the Americans. I live in a place that has temperatures that reach arctic lows for 3 months of the year. Yeah real sissies here. We handle our fights like real people with our fists not guns.

originally posted by: visitedbythem
a reply to: AbyshaHurry up an eat your carrot an shut up.

Hah! WIll do. I wasn't trying to pick a fight; have a wonderful evening.

a reply to: ElementalFreeze

I read somewhere he was most likely gay if he was real at all and one of his many male disciples or more was a lover.

So, he probably at least had oral or anal, not sure if that makes him a virgin or not?

originally posted by: DumpMaster
a reply to: ElementalFreeze

I read somewhere he was most likely gay if he was real at all and one of his many male disciples or more was a lover.

So, he probably at least had oral or anal, not sure if that makes him a virgin or not?

What? Now you are saying he was canadian? Oh come on .....

a reply to: ElementalFreeze

fantasising about the sex life of your imaginary friend much ?

originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: visitedbythem

Seriously !!! Your pathetic. At least that's what your wife told me

I dont have a wife. I do have a girlfriend . She is French Canadian from Moosejaw. She became an American, need I say more? And guess what? You have likely seen her before on TV. She is an actress.SAG. Got anything else?

a reply to: visitedbythem

Oh right its Mr Noahs Ark. Have fun with believing in fairy tales. And oh wow your girlfriend made a couple commercials good for her.

originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: visitedbythem

Oh right its Mr Noahs Ark. Have fun with believing in fairy tales. And oh wow your girlfriend made a couple commercials good for her.

Commercials for Sony and Subaru, and several movies as well

originally posted by: visitedbythem
No sex before death, or after ressurection, but the scripture does mention and elude to a wife he did not have sex with but loves eternally. The Church, which is nondenominational, which is composed of people who have a personal relationship with the Father through him and the Holy Spirit are his wife.
He is risen!
Indeed He is!

I think it's alluded not eludud but besides that how would you know if Jesus was celibate? I don't think a man who is willing to be executed for the sake of religion should have to die with out getting some. It would not botherme the least bit.

But my point is you don't know if Jesus was sexually active or married just because you don't find him doing any of that in the Gospels. They are only missionary accounts of his life and tales of his birth and death, not biographies. He had plenty ofyears not wwritten about and even the days recorded in the Gospels are not a lot. Not close to 33 years.

No reason the Messiah can't have a wife and sex and not tell many for safety reasons. And the Bible doesn't dismiss it so I am going to say it.

Jesus had a secret wife.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
This issue is a bit trivial in my opinion and is to miss the symbolism behind Jesus' story. Every part of Jesus' ministry is to be taken esoterically not literally in my opinion.

None of it literally happened, his story symbolizes spiritual concepts put into a coherent and linear story. Once one realizes this and starts reading between the lines they will find the truth.

Jesus liked to speak in parables, right? Well the NT is one big parable and was never meant to be taken literally. When you take it literally you get churches and religion. Jesus' story is spiritual not religious.

The only reason you think that the story is esoteric is because someone or something informed you of that.

Esoteric means secret, inner meaning where as exoteric is the outer meaning for the uninitiated.

You can.keep your esoteric interpretations, I doubt you have the meaning anyway you just think there is one.

But it's not trivial at all. In fact, it's one of the esoteric elements that Mary Magdalene was his wife.

That makes sex a legitimate possibility, and children.

And you have it a little confused. The most successful myths are the ones based on historical people and while Jesus may be a myth there could have been Yeshua who was alive in Judea and knew John the Baptist and James the Just.

And you didn't find it too trivial to tell us that you feel it is trivial. It also doesn't mean you miss the symbolism to ask this question.

You just want people to know you know the word esoteric and that symbolism exists. Because you think you are enlightened. Bravo.

a reply to: Padawan ElementalFreeze

Padawan, why start a thread/discussion only to ridicule people who disagree? Strange Padawan strange.

This is interesting, you said:

By Padawan:
But it's not trivial at all. In fact, it's one of the esoteric elements that Mary Magdalene was his wife.

Then you say:

By Padawan:
The most successful myths are the ones based on historical people and wwhile Jesus may be a myth there could have been Yeshua who was alive in Judea and knew John the Baptist and James the Just.

So you are of the opinion that Yeshua/Jesus may not have actually existed! Yet you rely on him and the holy spirit so completely! Talk about delusional Padawan, delusional!

So you give credence to the words and works of someone you believe may not have existed in the first place? Phwoar Padawan, Phwoar!

You also say:

By Padawan:
And you have it a little confused.

Nope, you are the confused one Padawan. Confused!

You also say:

By Padawan:
And you have it a little confused.

Nope, you are the confused one Padawan. Confused!

In your words Padawan, Bravo!

Coomba98.... Sorry:

Summers Eve.

a reply to: coomba98

Are you asking me why I started a thread to ridicule people? I don't believe that is what I have done.

Why are you asking stupid questions? Why have you been following me around from thread to thread like a stalker?

Those are much more important questions. You need professional help before you escalate and start following people in person because you could have a very serious problem. You think you are the ats vigilante of political correctness and it is funny to witness but I don't want to be responsible for you snapping and taking it out on a person you know.


Now if you don't mind I am discussing theories about Jesus having a wife and sex, and because you have been literally stalking me online for a couple days now, I will not be discussing them with you.

a reply to: Padawan ElementalFreeze

By Padawan
Are you asking me why I started a thread to ridicule people? I don't believe that is what I have done.

This is what you always do Padawan. Just read your recent comment to 3NL1GHT3N3D1, and this is just the most recent post. You should really check out your history throughout the many many usernames you have. Even a doron would see this! (ok when I say doron I mean it rhymes with doron). [See I can be passive aggressive as well Padawan]

By Padawan:
Why are you asking stupid questions?

Did I ask a stupid question? Where Padwan, where?

By Padawan:
Why have you been following me around from thread to thread like a stalker?

eerrrr, um ATS is a specific local site. I come here, you come here.... and yet you call me a stalker? Do you even know what a stalker is Padawan? Im here, your here.... were both here Padawan. No stalking just attendance to a website we both go to.

You sure are a strange Padawan, Padawan!

By Padawan:
You need professional help before you escalate and start following people in person because you could have a very serious problem.

Now you using my personal concerns to you on me, very original Padawan. Very original!

Im not the only one who has asked YOU to seek professional help in your past internet incarnations.

And you say I need help. lol your a funny Padawan, Padawan.

By Padawan:
[1]You think you are the ats vigilante of political correctness and it is funny to witness [2]but I don't want to be responsible for you snapping and taking it out on a person you know.

Two part response.

1. How do you come to this conclusion Padawan? Teaching you polite etiquette is my hobby, I told you this Padawan! Is your memory that short term? Damn!

2. I am not a physical violent person. Yes I did 12 years of taekwondo, 2 years of jiu jitsu and about 2 months of kickboxing. Each and all disciplines teach you that fighting is wrong, and we learn to fight so when a fight occurs we can not only defend ourselves but to lessen the damage caused to your opponent in worst case scenarios.

Violence is wrong 99.99% of occasions. Wrong!!!

By Padawan:
Now if you don't mind I am discussing theories about Jesus having a wife and sex,

So you want to discuss theories about someone you believe to be theoretically possible?

A theory to a theory Padawan, strange way of thinking given your attitude towards people who disagree with you. Strange Padawan strange.

Also who honestly cares is Yeshi had a wife or had sex? Really! Is it any of your business?

Or do you want positive clarification that Yeshi was a virgin when he died so you can emulate his sexual status?

Strange Padawan, strange!

By Padawan:
and because you have been literally stalking me online for a couple days now,

Nope, been trailing your posts for a few months now, back when you where Padawan Gnosisfaith. What was that, over 30+ usernames ago?

If I knew your address id send you a trophy Padawan. That sure is an accomplishment Padawan!

By Padawan:
I will not be discussing them with you.

Yet you are Padawan, you are!

Ohh and call me Summers eve god damn it, Summers eve!!!

Coomba98... Sorry

Summers eve

a reply to: ElementalFreeze

It would have been a bit odd for the times if he didn't have a wife. I mean...first born son, heir to Joseph and all that.

For him not to have a wife in those times would have been very, very abnormal. After all, Joseph wants to solidify his line of heirs.

a reply to: ElementalFreeze

No one informed me of anything, everything I've come to the conclusion of has been on my own, not any outside influence.

Whether Jesus had sex or not is trivial because of the fact that whether he did or didn't doesn't really change anything.

But it is strange that you say I can keep my esoteric meanings but then go on to say that Mary Magdalene being his wife is esoteric. The topic was sex, not the esoteric meaning of Mary Magdalene.

originally posted by: visitedbythem

originally posted by: DumpMaster
a reply to: ElementalFreeze

I read somewhere he was most likely gay if he was real at all and one of his many male disciples or more was a lover.

So, he probably at least had oral or anal, not sure if that makes him a virgin or not?

What? Now you are saying he was canadian? Oh come on .....

Uh, I am not sure what you are talking about. Canada was not even a country when Jesus supposedly exsisted.. On top of that it's also on a different continent.. Question of the thread was is this guy a virgin. I noticed nobody mentioned how he was most likely gay and so I posted because it's related to the topic.

a reply to: DumpMaster

There is also an apocryphal book with pedophilic undertones where Jesus spends the night alone with a young boy.

But if he was gay I could see that.

"The disciple that Jesus loved"

Is said to be John by Christianity. But Jesus loves every one so this must be a special love. A special love between a man and a man in ancient times was not the equivalent of today's bro-mance so...