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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: carewemust
The other day, one of my kid's 5 dwarf hamsters had 7 babies. To keep things manageable going forward, I put 5 of the babies down the garbage disposal. My sister-in-law said that was cruel.
That is sickening. I wish I had not read it. Now I can never, ever unknow it.
Shame on you. It was not only cruel, it was sadistic, unnecessary, and savage.
originally posted by: savagediver
I dont have an answer , but the garbage disposal method seems so gory and weird to me. I know what goes down the drain is nasty , but killing baby anything mammal in a garbage disposal seems so sickening.
originally posted by: Bleeeeep
a reply to: carewemust
I think the rule is that it is only okay if not killing them is a threat to your safety.
e.g. We need to eat animals to survive.
e.g. Pests threaten humans directly (physical harm or illness) or indirectly (through damage to crops and livestock).
You should not mix intent with no intent.
originally posted by: carewemust
April 16, 2016
The other day, one of my kid's 5 dwarf hamsters had 7 babies. To keep things manageable going forward, I put 5 of the babies down the garbage disposal. My sister-in-law said that was cruel.
-CareWeMust
A man who killed his hamster by cooking it in a microwave has been jailed for nine weeks.
originally posted by: savagediver
I dont have an answer , but the garbage disposal method seems so gory and weird to me. I know what goes down the drain is nasty , but killing baby anything mammal in a garbage disposal seems so sickening.
Intentional acts of cruelty can lead to multiple years behind bars.[26][27] These acts (of intentional animal cruelty or non-accidental injury) may be indicators of serious psychological problems.[28][29] According to the American Humane Association, 13% of intentional animal abuse cases involve domestic violence.[30] As many as 71% of pet-owning women seeking shelter at safe houses have reported that their partner had threatened and/or actually hurt or killed one or more of their pets; 32% of these women reported that one or more of their children had also hurt or killed pets. Battered women report that they are prevented from leaving their abusers because they fear what will happen to the animals in their absence. Animal abuse is sometimes used as a form of intimidation in domestic disputes.[31]
One of the known warning signs of certain psychopathologies, including antisocial personality disorder, also known as psychopathic personality disorder, is a history of torturing pets and small animals, a behavior known as zoosadism. According to The New York Times, "[t]he FBI has found that a history of cruelty to animals is one of the traits that regularly appears in its computer records of serial rapists and murderers, and the standard diagnostic and treatment manual for psychiatric and emotional disorders lists cruelty to animals a diagnostic criterion for conduct disorders.[32] "A survey of psychiatric patients who had repeatedly tortured dogs and cats found all of them had high levels of aggression toward people as well, including one patient who had murdered a young boy."[32] Robert K. Ressler, an agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation's behavioral sciences unit, studied serial killers and noted,"Murderers like this (Jeffrey Dahmer) very often start out by killing and torturing animals as kids."[33]
Cruelty to animals is one of the three components of the Macdonald triad, indicators of violent antisocial behavior in children and adolescents. According to the studies used to form this model, cruelty to animals is a common (but not universal) behavior in children and adolescents who grow up to become serial killers and other violent criminals.
It has also been found that children who are cruel to animals have often witnessed or been victims of abuse themselves.[34] In two separate studies cited by the Humane Society of the United States, roughly one-third of families suffering from domestic abuse indicated that at least one child had hurt or killed a pet.[35]
8.Arrange homes for the babies. You only need to do this if you aren't planning on keeping the babies after they are born. If you are having a hard time finding friends who want to take a baby or two, try posting an ad on Craigslist. You can also check with teachers at local schools, as hamsters make excellent classroom pets.
Never breed Hamsters unless you can find them a homes or provide for them in your own home.
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: carewemust
IMO, octopus, dolphins, squid, cuttlefish, mantis shrimp among others, are equally if not more sophisticated than humans.