Russian jets speed past US Navy destroyer in 'simulated attack profile

The Cook new the Jets were inbound. The Radar system picks them up at about 100 nm out. If they had launched missles to attack, the cook would have been at general quarters immediately with all defense weapon systems on....they would have also launched missiles to intercept the SU-24's....and you would have an international incident, possibly a damage US ship and two downed Russian Jets. Be glad the US captain is capable of playing chicken and winning.

Furthermore....the incident awhile back where an SU24 disabled the Aegis system.......were dismissed as a newspaper hoax and even the manufacturer of the system supposedly installed on the SU24's said that it WAS NOT installed on these SU24's....so, let's talk truth and not BS.

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я знал, что это была плохая идея Путина Lol

originally posted by: Zaphod58
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They were 25 miles out when they found Sheffield on radar. The official range is between 20-30 miles, probably closer to 20.

Atlantic Conveyor doesn't have a range estimate.

Glamorgan was 18 miles offshore when she was attacked by two missiles fired from a modified launcher that was on the coast.

Thanks for the info! It is always interesting to review these capabilities. It would be very interesting to know what the radar operators saw and when the crew actually saw the exocet visually.

Another aerial close call as Russian jet barrel-rolls over U.S. aircraft

Washington (CNN)A United States Air Force reconnaissance plane was barrel-rolled by a Russian jet over the Baltic Sea during a routine flight in international airspace, U.S. European Command said Saturday.

The incident on Thursday occurred when a Russian jet "performed erratic and aggressive maneuvers" as it flew within 50 feet of the U.S. aircraft's wing tip, Danny Hernandez, a spokesman for European Command, said in a response to a question from CNN.

The saga continues, the Western narrative of "Russian aggression" gains credibility, and the necessity of such multi-billion-dollar programs as the European Reassurance Initiative, Operation Atlantic Resolve, missile defense and countless unreported initiatives to study, contain and neutralize Russia as a strategic threat.

I'm sure U.S. military planners could not be happier to see "Crazy Ivan" return, because nothing loosens tight budgets like a well-orchestrated threat.

I'm also sure President Putin thinks he's doing the right thing, but as President Nixon found out a half-century ago, tactics like these rarely produce the desired results.

Thanks to Russia's unfortunate conformance to stereotype, Western propaganda mills are in full swing, dutifully churning out the meme that Russia is threatening to invade Europe and is a dangerous rogue nation that needs to be isolated in the same manner as North Korea.

Given the immense strategic costs of playing right into the eager hands of NATO and U.S. congressional "hawks" in an election year, these stunts are quite possibly some of the most expensive air shows ever staged.

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I'm far more nervous about how they're reacting to the RCs than I am the ships. I can easily see losing an RC and crew in something similar to the EP-3 incident.

The January intercept the Su-27 pulled so close that when he turned away and lit his afterburner it disrupted airflow over their control surfaces for a second or two.

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Perhaps, like China, they are willing to sacrifice the life of an incompetent pilot in exchange for a U.S. surveillance aircraft. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail, but unfortunately those seem to be in short supply in Russia these days.

Neither the U.S. or Russia has a reputation for backing down, which is why this is unlikely to end well.

a reply to: Majic

If they try with an RC I suspect it will end with them in pieces on the ocean bottom. They're more fragile than the P-3 in many ways and the crews are aware of how much more sensitive and valuable they are than the P-3 was. If they got their hands on Rivet Joint or Combat Sent it would gut our ISR for years while they try to recover.

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I think it's a safe bet that all policies and contingencies for operations in the vicinity of Russian assets are being reviewed and revised as we speak, with the aim of minimizing risks to friendly forces without compromising mission objectives. The net result will hopefully be greater safety for all involved, and may even include giving the appearance of backing down while secretly strengthening less obvious measures, like satellite and submarine tasking.

Russian leaders may take false comfort and feel vindicated by an apparently weak but potentially more dangerous response to their hijinks.

But all the while, NATO's strategic noose will continue to tighten around them.

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I have zero faith in the AF leadership anymore. What they should be doing is taking a page from the Russian play book and sending F-22s to shadow them. A fighter escort tends to settle things down somewhat and might actually get people to step back for a minute.

if russia breaks international law, we should shoot the jet down

that's what turkey did, and russia didn't do anything about it

Putin is weak

a reply to: syrinx high priest

We should have shot there commies jet down. Then took out a Russian ship to one up and show them that WE ARE THE UNITED STATES OF #ING AMERICA!

a reply to: Americanpatriot123

Agreed
I think Obama is a chicken!

a reply to: Quantum12

I think Obama is a chicken!

That's what happens when your wife holds your huevos in her purse, and you have to ask to use them.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

LOL

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And then sit basking in the glow of the inevitable multi megaton exchanges bought about by your own stupidity.

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In the words of Dan Akryod
Spies like Us "you know what that thing can do? strip the paint off your house and give your family a permanent orange afro"

Just start shooting them down. I mean why the kid gloves, we are all adults.

Aggression should be met with aggression.

originally posted by: Americanpatriot123
a reply to: syrinx high priest

We should have shot there commies jet down. Then took out a Russian ship to one up and show them that WE ARE THE UNITED STATES OF #ING AMERICA!

Think the translation of this is:

Derp Derp

A note about Russia and the U.S.

Both Obama and Putin publicly announced not too long ago that "Erdogan must go" so there is an example of cooperation. Another example of recent cooperation between the two countries is when John Kerry hand-carried a briefcase to a lengthy, private meeting with Putin and whoever else, and there was humor exchanged between the two men recorded in the news about the event. Mr. Kerry must have shared something very top secret to have hand-carried it to Russia.

The Navy isn't saying what they were actually doing on their "routine patrol" in the Baltic on their way to Spain ("in support of U.S. national interests in Europe) but knowing my country the possibilities are many.

A picture taken by someone on the Donald Cook:

Navy pic

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They were training Polish forces on shipboard operations. The Donald Cook is forward deployed to Spain, so they were working out of their home port, with a Polish helicopter on board. They were refueling it when the Russian helicopter appeared, and had to halt flight operations while the Su-24s were there.