Earth Is Tipping Because of Climate Change

originally posted by: CranialSponge
a reply to: DBCowboy

Let's correct the Earth!

On three, everyone lean to your left.

One. . . . .two. . . . .

Now now.

Don't be doing something you'll later regret.

Leaning to the left might cause you to have an allergic reaction and break out in hives all over your body.



*cough*

Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha



I can just blame the hives on climate change.

With our over sized moon, I doubt the earth will tip over, its been doing a really fine job for billions of years, or perhaps the moons three centimetres a year drift has the scientists spooked?

The only perspective one needs in terms of Climate Change: Someone stands to profit from it.

Once your mind takes that in, everything else makes sense, with one notable exception: Why current and former employees of the government aren't being prosecuted for massive fraud.

ETA: Almost forgot ... Shame on Scientific American for producing click-bait material. How far the mighty have fallen ... -sigh

originally posted by: St Udio
Sometime since 2004 I posted a reply along the lines of the Earth Axis tilt...

we are all aware that the Earth's Axis tilt is presently around 23.5 degrees, a condition which causes our annual seasons to occur.

here is an obscure mental exercise about the axis tilt...
the normal 23.5 degree tilt is also equivalent to being 66.5 degrees from the Perpendicular of 90 °

If the Earth tilt was somehow altered (from asteroid hit, 10.0 Earthquake, plate shift...) to a new axis tilt of 23.4°....that tiny .1 degree difference would mathematically put the tilt at 66.6 off the Perpendicular (which is the anti-christ number)...

Wow ~~ that would be very weird, huh

That's creepy.

a reply to: rickymouse
You've not lost your style.
Good to be back here.
Oh and on topic?
If the earth is tipping I can only hope all the climate 'scientists' will fall off.

Peace

a reply to: NewzNose

What's coming in July? I haven't heard about that yet.

All the noise from the upcoming election is drowning out a lot of other news, unfortunately.

This was about a university study about a controversial subject. Of course there will be much conversation as to its' validity.

Our government is very much into the climate issues and will bestow money to research this issue right or wrong.

How many of you remember the college professors that always worked to get government grants for their programs? Money for programs equals a fast track to/for tenure...job security. Just my 2 cents!

a reply to: silo13


Good to see you back.

a reply to: lostbook

Without admittedly reading the link, I have to ask--how does ice melting into water reduce mass?

Is he trying to say that the melt water spreads out instead of being in a hunk of centralized ice mass, and that's the problem? Even still, that's not reduced mass, just redistributed mass.

Unless, of course, he's implying that evaporated water is the reduced mass, now that it can do so since it's not locked up as ice.

In any case, I decided to read the article, and this really sticks out:

The data do not indicate whether the recent climate changes are man-made, but Chen personally believes the drastic shift in the pole has to be the result of human activities. Meanwhile Ivins thinks he will be able to tease man-made climate change from the data in another six months or so. Given that polar motion and climate variability seem to be inextricably linked, scientists can look at historical records of the pole’s motion (which date back to well before the advent of GPS and the GRACE satellite) and see changes in Earth’s climate. If those changes are less dramatic than the ones we see today, Ivins says, then scientists could say that global warming has a controlling influence on Earth’s poles.

To me, this is the crux of what AGW-driven climatology has become: Even if the data does not indicate man-made catalysts for the noted changes, there are personal beliefs that AGW is the cause, and that maybe in six months, one of them can "tease man-made climate change from the data."

I call horsepucky and shenanigans. Any claimed scientists who base their conclusions on personal beliefs and the hopes that they can tease a correlation from raw data should not be taken seriously.

originally posted by: rickymouse
It's because they keep upping the Tip percentage when you go to a restaurant.

It's effecting the whole world.

Another analogy is that this is like a fast food outlet for honey bears.
As for some one who asked about the human element, some other connected scientist, (who probably moonlights as a cheer leader as well) blames it squarely on human activity...so there! (more rubbish)

You know, we had a discussion about how it seemed that the sun was setting and rising differently about five or so years ago and some people blew it off and said it wasn't. Evidence was supplied but I was skeptical if the people saying these things even went outside and looked. Now science is saying it did and they are trying to pin it on global warming. The sun was coming in my north window in the summer here, something that never used to happen.

The new articles appearing almost say what people were saying they were observing before.

So I am not going to believe this either, I will just believe that the sun now comes into my north window in the summer, since it shines right in my eyes on the couch.

This very very slight shift in axial tilt means than the sun will now rise, as seen from your front window, in the same place it previously appeared to rise as seen from 10ft in front of your front window .....

originally posted by: AndyMayhew
This very very slight shift in axial tilt means than the sun will now rise, as seen from your front window, in the same place it previously appeared to rise as seen from 10ft in front of your front window .....

All the change needed for the sun to shine into my north window in the evening at around eleven oclock was about an extra degree here in the summer. It did not change a lot, in fact it could have been just an atmospheric illusion that wasn't there before. I have been laying on that couch for twenty five years around sunset watching TV. No changes in the trees that would have exposed more view either.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: japhrimu
This and sea level rise are debunked to me if true.

Jesus hey, wow. I heard about Greenland rising, however I've never thought much about displacement with regard to ice and land and seawater rise. (well, maybe I have, but I'm excited about it now!) I did think that it was bs to claim sea level rise to the extent of the popular predictions, it seemed to me that they didn't account enough for the fact that clouds carry over land, too; the melting ice is not stuck in the poles or the oceans, it's got lakes to go to and mountains to see

originally posted by: semperfortis
I guess it depends on where one looks...

Updated NASA Data: Global Warming Not Causing Any Polar Ice Retreat

Updated data from NASA satellite instruments reveal the Earth’s polar ice caps have not receded at all since the satellite instruments began measuring the ice caps in 1979. Since the end of 2012, moreover, total polar ice extent has largely remained above the post-1979 average. The updated data contradict one of the most frequently asserted global warming claims – that global warming is causing the polar ice caps to recede.

In late 2012, however, polar ice dramatically rebounded and quickly surpassed the post-1979 average. Ever since, the polar ice caps have been at a greater average extent than the post-1979 mean.

Now, in May 2015, the updated NASA data show polar sea ice is approximately 5 percent above the post-1979 average.

Forbes

I would also postulate it depends on who is funding the study.

I'd prefer to go directly to the source, NASA, not Forbes.

climate.nasa.gov...

Shrinking ice sheets

The Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets have decreased in mass. Data from NASA's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment show Greenland lost 150 to 250 cubic kilometers (36 to 60 cubic miles) of ice per year between 2002 and 2006, while Antarctica lost about 152 cubic kilometers (36 cubic miles) of ice between 2002 and 2005.

Declining Arctic sea ice

Both the extent and thickness of Arctic sea ice has declined rapidly over the last several decades.

originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: lostbook

Without admittedly reading the link, I have to ask--how does ice melting into water reduce mass?

Is he trying to say that the melt water spreads out instead of being in a hunk of centralized ice mass, and that's the problem? Even still, that's not reduced mass, just redistributed mass.

The ice melts and flows from Greenland, over land, into the ocean. This changes the moments of inertia of the Earth.

a reply to: mbkennel

do you mean "momentum" of inertia?

I don't know, I think that's kind of a stretch to think the at flow of water is causing problems with spin of the earth...there's no way that there is enough water flow in only one general direction (I'm willing to bet that, on average, it flows in all directions relatively equally) to cause a big enough effect on the spin of the earth. But, I've never seen proof either way, but I just can't imagine that a few years of that sort of thing happening is enough to affect the tilt of the earth so dramatically. If so, there would be no constant, predictable measure of axial precession over time because this type of thawing and freezing happened a LOT in the history of the earth, and the precession would be sporadic and inconsistent in it's intensity.

Hell, the theoretical "Black Sea Deluge Hypothesis would have sent the world into a chaotic polar shift, if what you're saying is true. But there is a massive lack of evidence that it did.

a reply to: Kapusta

Not unless you can attribute them to global warming.

originally posted by: NewzNose
a reply to: lostbook

The climate is changing because the magnetic north has shifted 40 degrees, now knocking on Siberias door. The red dwarf star system entering our solar system will preturb our normal rotations, our satellites, and will warrant calm and vigilance in dealing with what is to com in July.

Keep your family safe.

Blessings & peace to your days ahead.

NN

What's to come in July? Something I can finally look forward to?

a reply to: onequestion

Very............VERY interesting.