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originally posted by: cooperton
originally posted by: Pardon?
You don't trust the science because to do so will crush your belief system.
That's about the top and bottom of it.
No. People distrust the science because it is supported by a billion dollar industry and research that demonstrates its potential harm is ominously covered up or arbitrarily deemed fraudulent.
originally posted by: Witness2008
a reply to: Farlander
I have five kids, they gave me seven grandkids, none have been vaccinated and all made it through the childhood viruses. We just had a case of mumps. It lasted a couple of days and was less traumatic than a head cold.
I have noticed over the years the milestones that happen when the babies recovered. One of the babies had measles earlier this year and once he had fully recovered his vocabulary jumped a couple of years ahead of his age group. He is in the one millionth percentile. I was caught off guard when I heard that.
Understand all of those wild viruses and how to get them through it safely. A doctor that knows healing is always good to have in your corner.
originally posted by: Pardon?
originally posted by: Witness2008
a reply to: Farlander
I have five kids, they gave me seven grandkids, none have been vaccinated and all made it through the childhood viruses. We just had a case of mumps. It lasted a couple of days and was less traumatic than a head cold.
I have noticed over the years the milestones that happen when the babies recovered. One of the babies had measles earlier this year and once he had fully recovered his vocabulary jumped a couple of years ahead of his age group. He is in the one millionth percentile. I was caught off guard when I heard that.
Understand all of those wild viruses and how to get them through it safely. A doctor that knows healing is always good to have in your corner.
Congratulations to you and your family for making it through.
Did your kids pass on the diseases to anyone else?
How did they fare?
And the ones they passed it on to...
originally posted by: Witness2008
a reply to: Pardon?
I would think that if folks are vaccinated, they would be protected. We did not share the viruses with anyone else. The adults in the family actually were able to give a boost to our own immunity from each and every exposure. I love how the human immune system works. What I see is that those that don't have the "herd" mentality are actually healthier.
originally posted by: Witness2008
a reply to: Pardon?
I would think that if folks are vaccinated, they would be protected. We did not share the viruses with anyone else. The adults in the family actually were able to give a boost to our own immunity from each and every exposure. I love how the human immune system works. What I see is that those that don't have the "herd" mentality are actually healthier.
originally posted by: Witness2008
a reply to: GetHyped
Double speak, and by a group peddling vaccines. I can only speak from personal experience. Me, my children, and their children have life long immunity that did not require the injection of formaldehyde, aluminum, trace amounts of mercury along with other not so healthy additives. We are healthier for having dealt with the viruses naturally.
What you seem to have missed is that to obtain "life long immunity" from these diseases your family HAVE HAD the diseases! Logic misfire?
So what is your definition of healthier? How do you quantify that? What do you measure against?
originally posted by: Witness2008
a reply to: Pardon?
What you seem to have missed is that to obtain "life long immunity" from these diseases your family HAVE HAD the diseases! Logic misfire?
Duh....I see that there is a comprehension issue.
I advocate for myself and my family acquiring life long immunity from childhood illnesses through exposure to the wild virus, even if that means actually contracting it. More than half of my experiences were that the illness itself was so mild that it took a really good doctor to diagnose it. We made the trip to see the doctor not because of any help we needed to get the baby through it unscathed, but to verify that the baby actually had the illness.
Dude....it works for me and my family.
Were you aware that some vaccines actually shed? I suspect that is how a couple cases in my family were acquired. Nothing that carries risk, and serious risk for some children, and is not 100% effective should ever be mandated.
originally posted by: Witness2008
a reply to: Pardon?
Forgot to respond to this.....
So what is your definition of healthier? How do you quantify that? What do you measure against?
You know those charts that are found in every pediatricians office? We use that to measure the health and progress of the babies in my family. We also use the standardized testing in the public education arena for intellectual, emotional, and psychological milestones. Imagine that, institutionalized and widely respected standards are proving to me and many others that our children are better off.
originally posted by: X88B88
Why is it so #ing hard for people to understand that people like me and my family AREN'T the latest buzzword 'anti-vaxx', but are pro safe vaccination ingredients and scheduling?! Is this that difficult to comprehend? To want to ensure that what a doctor is injecting into my child has had long term testing for safety?
The current over zealous vaccination schedule and toxic ingredients can cause serious, long term, permanent neurological damage in some children. I've seen it happen to 2 sets of friend's children. Both children were developing normally, and on the regular CDC vaccination schedule. After a vaccination session, both suffered from encephalitis that same day (a side effect that is listed in the health warnings for both DTAP and MMR) and were never the same again; both developed autism and have hardly any communication with the outside world. These families will be taking care of these children as children for the rest of their lives. This has happened to tens of thousands of children in the US.
The AAP, CDC, FDA, and the pharmaceutical companies know the truth and have been covering it up for decades. That's why in 1986 Reagan passed a law for his corporate friends giving pharmaceutical corporations immunity from responsibility from vaccine related deaths and injuries.