Risk of Collapse at Jesus Tomb is a Symbol of WWIII and how to overcome it!

The Peace of God to all that belong to the Light,
Dear Readers,

I believe Unity among Christians is an in ideal that no doubt follow the actual will of Jesus of Nazareth, there is no doubt on that if we read carefully of his statements along the scriptures, especially the last ones contained in his so called eschatology .

Please check:

en.wikipedia.org...

However, in the light of the current events that are shaken the world peace in middle east it is clear that Unity among Christians has been gradually more and more an urgent need.

It is difficult to understand why walls of incomprehension still exist among people that share essentially the same beliefs.

Today's news of the necessary repairs that the Holy Sepulcher requires in Jerusalem, coming out precisely in between the Episcopalian-Protestant-Roman Catholic and the Greek Orthodox or Oriental Easters is certainly a positive step in the correct direction.

First time in around almost three centuries that diverse Christian denominations that have access to the actual tomb where the body of Jesus was once buried are going to put aside their traditional differences to collaborate to restore the sanctuary in order to prevent a physical collapse, that if it happens will be a disaster for all of them.

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Why what is happening in the Holy Sepulcher is a symbol of our times?

Christianity in general is right now also menaced of terrible already announced Collapse:

Facing horrendous xenophobic fundamentalisms emerging from peoples that also claim to believe in the same God.

The Christian Unity is more needed today than never before in History if we want to avoid that collapse, Christians of different denominations ought to learn to trust each one the others or chances are that we are going to see repetitions of the Assyrian Christian genocide occurring in other places.

Please Check:

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The thread is open to the free discussion of all the interested members, please remain in topic and avoid any kind of personal attacks, we all are ruled by the norms of decorum in the posting in the forum.

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness

No need to worry. Within walking distance of this place is ANOTHER "Tomb of Jesus" located in a wall in a garden in what has been said is the Garden of Joseph of Arimathea. It is literally next door to Golgotha, a stone outcropping which looks like a skull, said to be where Jesus was crucified. The place is now an asphalt parking lot where tour buses emit diesel fumes while waiting for their charges. Golgotha is one of several places reputed to be the crucifxion ground.

So, you see, you have several choices as to where all this happened. I've been to them all. The Church mentioned here is a pretty dreary place where several different sects take turns guarding it.

Whilst reading the events of the punch-ups in the tomb, it occurred to me that there is so much division amongst the participants that jinn and daemons are easily playing (suggesting) with the tempers of the mortals.

If the iron cage was as Spiritually Blessed as it should be, the Djinn (who hate iron) would not even be able to enter the chamber.

The place is gone. Game over.

originally posted by: schuyler
No need to worry. Within walking distance of this place is ANOTHER "Tomb of Jesus" located in a wall in a garden in what has been said is the Garden of Joseph of Arimathea. It is literally next door to Golgotha, a stone outcropping which looks like a skull, said to be where Jesus was crucified. The place is now an asphalt parking lot where tour buses emit diesel fumes while waiting for their charges. Golgotha is one of several places reputed to be the crucifxion ground.

So, you see, you have several choices as to where all this happened. I've been to them all. The Church mentioned here is a pretty dreary place where several different sects take turns guarding it.

Their is even one in Kashmir where some believe he is still buried although the Sunni's that act as caretakers for the tomb would tell you Jesus was taken up into heaven so nobody is in the tomb. Jesus being a good Muslim of course.

a reply to: MrSpad

Well I don't want to controvert others beliefs, but the two places mentioned in the replies are definitively never the burial place of Christ.

The Tomb in the Garden can be a good example of a typical burial site of the times of Christ but nothing more, and It is certainly doubtful that belonged to Joseph of Arimathea, for the simple reason that there is strong historical evidence that this figure, a converted Pharisee into the Christian faith, migrated to Western Europe to carry out evangelization and it is likely that he died either in the British Islands or somewhere in the west coast of France or Spain.

His name is always mentioned in the so called medieval legends of the Holy Grail by the way.

Please check: en.wikipedia.org...

The Tomb in Kashmir may have at most the possibility to the be the burial site of either the Apostle St Thomas ( although there is no
historic evidence that he actually died in India)

Please check:
www.catholic.org...


or Apostle St Jude Thaddeus (or one of his disciples) , the two figures that we know certainly traveled to the Indian Subcontinent to spread the Christian faith in the first century.

Please check:
www.catholic.org...

Even empty , in spite of the Muslim beliefs you have mentioned, the Kashmir tomb couldn't be the burial site of Jesus, since he never visited that land. There is no historic evidence to support such a claim, neither in biblical or non biblical accounts about the life of Jesus of Nazareth.

I respectfully don't see any serious alternative to the Holy sepulcher as the burial site of Christ, and that is supported by many religious traditions, not just one, that all converge in to it. The place by the way necessarily has the importance of to have been the place in which the resurrection of Jesus ought to have occurred according with the scriptures.

So any other burial site in the surroundings is frankly a bad imitation of this one that has official acknowledgement since the times of the Roman Empire, from 330 A.D. that is when the Church building was finished.

Please check:
www.bibleplaces.com...


Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

He who keeps the keys to Heaven rules the world.
- Sir Leigh Teabing

For all religions who claim they are non violent they sure have caused more deaths than anything man could accomplish without religion.


There are only 2 certainties in life -

You are born.
You die.

Both of which are accomplished without religion.

What occurs in between, with religion involved, is a living hell.

a reply to: Rapha

Demons that have a weakness to iron? Sounds like supermans weakness to kryptonite!

a reply to: The angel of light

especially the last ones contained in his so called eschatology .

But they were written by others, many years after he walked/did not walk the earth

The Christian Unity is more needed today than never before in History if we want to avoid that collapse, Christians of different denominations ought to learn to trust each one the others or chances are that we are going to see repetitions of the Assyrian Christian genocide occurring in other places.

Well we had the Armenian genocide of of the 20th Century - not much was done about that. We've had major ups and down in sectarian Christianity in the last 1600 years, Popes killing Popes, Luther, Mormonism....ah well...its in cough cough Gods hands.

originally posted by: The angel of light
a reply to: MrSpad

Well I don't want to controvert others beliefs, but the two places mentioned in the replies are definitively never the burial place of Christ.

The Tomb in the Garden can be a good example of a typical burial site of the times of Christ but nothing more, and It is certainly doubtful that belonged to Joseph of Arimathea, for the simple reason that there is strong historical evidence that this figure, a converted Pharisee into the Christian faith, migrated to Western Europe to carry out evangelization and it is likely that he died either in the British Islands or somewhere in the west coast of France or Spain.

But it could have been his garden before he took off for Europe. You can claim these places you don't like "definitely weren't" if you want, but the fact is that these sites are also quite venerated, and you don't know one way or another. I'm not really championing that tomb, but it is errily close to Golgotha and it's easy to see why many people make that conclusion. The real point I was trying to make, perhaps too subtly, was that religious traditions vary and without solid documentation, no one really knows one way or another. Where's Mt. Ararat? You have quite a few mountains to choose from.

Albert Schweizer, the army ant doctor in Africa, also happened to be a noted theologian in his time. His primary contention about Jesus was that not only do we not know the facts of his life, we CANNOT know the facts of his life because the information is simply not there to be had.

The overriding issue here is that a place, a physical place, should not matter. I realize people place a lot of stock in this stuff, otherwise we wouldn't have the Dome of the Rock built on top of the Second Temple. It's a time-honored tradition for one religion to try to wipe out another one by building the newer "worship places" on top of the old ones. Christians have done it for thousands of years.

But if this particular place falls apart, why should that matter in the least. It's parallel is getting upset and trying to preserve the body when the spirit has moved on. The body isn't the issue here. You can cremate it and it wont matter. The whole issue is a myth anyway.

Thank God that Idolatry is a sin so God isn't worried about a worthless building falling in. I know the building holds great historical significance but I'm pretty sure God has more pressing maters to attend too.

a reply to: The angel of light

Jesus has a tomb? This is news to me, here i was thinking that he ascended to heaven.

a reply to: andy06shake

It was occupied for 3 days before he went back to the mother-ship in space.

"God said let their be light".
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Has anyone else noticed the fight over religion takes the same course as people arguing on the internet"?

a reply to: Xcathdra

"Has anyone else noticed the fight over religion takes the same course as people arguing on the internet"?"

Probably because history has a habit of repetition, just the medium that has changed and to our shame not the human paradigm.

Which if you ask me needs a good shift.

originally posted by: andy06shake
Probably because history has a habit of repetition,

“There is no present or future-only the past, happening over and over again-now.”

― Eugene O'Neill, A Moon for the Misbegotten

a reply to: The angel of light

I don't put much stock in that location as being the actual tomb.

I think the Garden Tomb is more likely the true one.

Whether the goings on in the other location signal anything prophetically or not . . . would be hard to discern.

Certainly there are potentially many omens and 'signs' flooding the Middle East . . . particularly in light of Daniel, Ezekiel, Psalms, the shorter prophets, Mat 24, Revelation etc.

a reply to: BO XIAN

Again, everybody can praise God in the place they consider they feel more comfortable to do so, but it is absolutely clear that to claim to be in a sanctuary is another very different situation.

There is no historic tradition at all, no records what so ever of any kind that support any serious possibility for the tomb in the Garden to be the actual sanctuary where burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ actually occurred.

Now, it is quite meaningful that the very real possibility of a collapse of a structure that has more than 200 years without any repair, due to the unfortunate conflict of interest among the different Christian rites that have access to the place, is finally pushing all of them to an agreement above any differences.

That is precisely what we right now need in the general scheme of things in Middle east, we need to see an agreement among all the Christians of the world to help the Assyrian Christians that are being massacred by ISIS, we need to terminate this absurd and useless confrontation that irresponsible political leaders, started at the end of 2013 for a dispute on who is going to control Ukraine, for mere strategic considerations.

We are living right now in America under the rule of an administration that first time in History openly have recognized that they don't care at all and don't feel compromised with Christian values, They publicly have stated that , in their peculiar way to interpret the feelings and beliefs of the great majority of Americans, this country is not anymore following Judeo-Christian principles, not the one that inspired the American revolution of 1776.

Where were the father founders that represented other creeds about 240 years ago, where were the muslim patriots? the Buddhists, or the atheistic ones?

The so called diversity in which this administration found its bold claims is the product of an artificially created diversity promoted by absurd migration laws implemented since the 1960s, that is the only real truth here, either if we feel comfortable with it or Not.

What is its most important result? that America became gradually a nation without national identity at all, in other words a bad imitation of a Babel tower, one that if we don't find to return to cohesion might fall as the first one.

We need to have a common front of all Christendom united, all along Siberia, Russia, across Europe, and to the Americas, to face the fundamentalist Islam as an only one block, that is the only inertia that will give a chance to our civilization to survive.

If those agreements are not found it is likely that the horrible Assyrian genocide will precede others in Middle east and in North Africa, and its collapse will announce ours too.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

I'm don't believe christianity is fading. Infant its growing. Most of you can't even see it.

It's just sad to see that all of you want nothing but the world to happen sooner. You would like to see Jesus come sooner, and you would love to make the devil come here sooner to make the end of the world happen in your own life time.

To have those thoughts, and to make the end of the world only happen sooner is considered a sin. Besides if you are all real true christians you all know that life on earth is temporary. All actions, all thoughts, all judgements will be looked at when you see god himself.

I'm just warning you. By trying to make people think the world is ending, and by trying to make things happen a lot does not make you look good in front of the eyes of the lord.

Something you really should think about. And you need to remember that god know's everything. He know's what we are thinking, he know's are thoughts, ever good deed, everything bad deed. He know's everything.

You can't hide from him at all. No one can.

So think about that before you post absolute nonsense and rubbish. Think hard about it. True Christians know better.

a reply to: The angel of light

There is no evidence god exists and all evidence to date suggest he doesnt. If he did exist we would not have war, famine, disease and my mom would not have died for no reason at all a day ago.

Take the God talk and shove it. Its a waste of time and only causes grief while prayers are ignored.

# him...

a reply to: MattHealthy

With all respect Dear MattHealthy,

it is clear that you don't really know nothing about the times we are living, in the first quarter of 2016 Christian Assyrians have reduced dramatically their original number that was once of almost three millions to just a little more that half a million.

Please check:
www.theguardian.com...

I don't know in what kind of fantasy universe you live, I am sorry if I am moving my readers out of the age of innocence, but here we are talking about actual facts, not speculations on how close we are to the final judgement.

Please check:
myocn.net...

You need to be in the streets of any of the cities of North Syria or Iraq in which this terrible genocide is occurring to understand that you are trying to live with your back turned to reality, hundreds of Christian churches among the eldest ones of the Christendom have been demolished by the very real terrorists of ISIS.

Please check:

www.aina.org...

I am wondering what are thinking on your insensate reply the relatives of all the innocent victims of Terrorism in the streets of Paris or Brussels, or south California, killed unmercifully by ISIS.

Why don't you try to comfort them with your cheap rhetoric of Nothing is happening here and who is interpreting correctly the signs of our times?

Yours is the attitude that of certain kind of people that the scriptures describe as blind people trying to lead other blind people.

I have been interpreting with remarkable accuracy the signals of the so complicate times we are living since 2007 and I have not disappointed my readers on all my past predictions, anybody can see that just checking my records in ATS.

St Matthew 16, 2But He replied to them, "When it is evening, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red.' 3"And in the morning, 'There will be a storm today, for the sky is red and threatening.' Do you know how to discern the appearance of the sky, but cannot discern the signs of the times?

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: Xcathdra

Don't make me laugh, by the law of probabilities the likelihood we are all here sitting down writing these lines in a computer our civilization have built just by mere chance is clearly several times smaller than 1 against various millions.

By random the possibility molecules of certain chemicals mix spontaneously in the needed proportions and under the appropriate conditions of presence of energy to suddenly produce something remotely similar than life is the most unlikely process to be triggered, we are not here by accident that is an absurd assumption.

I am a scientist by myself, with Graduate academic degrees in various different disciplines and honestly I don't see what is the so strong "evidence" you suggest exist that there is not a super intelligence behind the design of the Universe.

By the way try to educate a child following your peculiar sense of personal irresponsibility over his or her own acts in life and you are going to see why the world is what it is right now, to blame God of that is one of the most immature statements I ever have read in my life.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness