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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Semicollegiate
Who eliminates big corps in an anarchistic capitalist state? The market itself?
originally posted by: luthier
The confusion lies in the ideal of a perfect situation without the need to recognise mankind has some issues around greed and power that exist. Which is the true meaning of regulations. However they get implemented OS a seperate arguement. We first need to agree man can be corrupted. In which case they will conspire. If you pretend it doesn't happen you get terrible results.
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Semicollegiate
Well no Government has a definition. Thats how language works. The word has a meaning based on definitions. It can even change with common ussage.
What it can't do is be changed by anybody so they can use it in an arguement.
Otherwise I can just go ahead and call the free market socialism. Just so I can have a crappy poorly thought out debate where my soul purpose is to fight with my opponent rather than use reason and back up claims.
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Semicollegiate
Really. From websters? Or consensus.
Is this a script? It's a lot like one of those telemarketing scams.
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Semicollegiate
It already is a government.
Nobody in this debate so far has even argued the things you keep bringing up except that your living in an idealistic dream world.
Like Obamacare didn't pass?
It's on the other end of Bernie Sanders dream world.
Personally I have no ill feelings for sanders. I think he is the best choice left.
1 he can't do crap with a Republican Congress.
The last thing we need is an effective president.
2 he is the only one bringing awareness to campaign finance and lobb y power.
3 the rest of the field is so bad I would consider voting for a socialist over the fascist.
originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Semicollegiate
But does it happen?
It doesn't and whatever the reason for it not happening really doesn't change the fact that it doesn't. Yes it's sheeple, government, propaganda, tv, flouride in the water and vaccines, or, as luthier has pointed out, people are people.
originally posted by: Semicollegiate
You don't know that it happens or not. I don't feel like writing a book for you.
originally posted by: daskakik
originally posted by: Semicollegiate
You don't know that it happens or not. I don't feel like writing a book for you.
Nobody asked you to write anything.
If it hasn't happened then it hasn't happened, what's left to argue?
No amount of excuses or fingerpointing on your part is going to change that.
I believe in capitalism with law to protect against ethical issues.
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Semicollegiate
Thats is just plain untrue.
One government is required whether you like it or not.
Two government sets up the rules of the market whether you like it or not.
Three laws are necessary to stop cheaters before they do damage to society.
Four history time and again proves your last point completely and utterly false.