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Martyrdom?

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posted on Apr, 7 2016 @ 06:30 AM
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There really is no verbal expression, no measurable quantifier of repugnance for religiously-justified violence, whether or not there have ever been those entirely secular controlling however much of it (but that's a whole other discussion). Said violence should be considered close enough to equally as vile and utterly unacceptable to moral and reasonable enough people as, say, the pedophilic crimes within the Catholic clergy; there's no major difference in the level of perversion, abomination. Or, obviously, the murderous crimes are worse than the pederast priests, but the appropriately visceral-emotional revulsion that cannot be expressed in mere words is sorely lacking to understate it. Sure, there are far more than abundant reactions of entirely predictable hatred and fear to terrorism, but the total creep-out or heebie-jeebies factor is effectively nonexistent.

What bigger example of entirely harmful ignorance is there in the universe than that which commits homicidal-genocidal acts in the name of an alleged Supreme Being whom there is nothing resembling compelling evidence, let alone full-fledged proof, exists? I will go perhaps out a limb and guarantee that various unexplained phenomena can be explained in scientific-rational enough terms of ETs/nonhumans instead of the very limited-exclusive, strictly proprietary beings (characters) of the ancient stories of goat herders, and whatever derivatives of those stories that most unfortunately became religions. I'd gladly wager in the biggest (whether or not it can ever be proved) that the universe or multiverse is inexpressibly more pluralistic and complex than that primitive monotheistic nonsense.

Where are the truth warriors, the ones like me who are willing to give it ALL for THE one and only highest calling? It is we and ONLY we who have enough honesty and humility to be deserving of real power and greatness. We DESIRE actual, objective knowledge, not claim to have it via mere belief/blind faith alone, which is simply psychotic, however globally unrecognized. The solution will never be in elevating or at least ENABLING one religion over another or religions in general; we need a whole new paradigm of thoughts and actions. We need to act in both ecological and sociological imperatives.

There's more toxicity from the Fukushima tsunami-meltdown than governments-media admit or even so much as mention. In the least there's enough damage already for REAL ecological concern, having properly mandatory publicity. The mistaken focus on climate change is, intentionally and/or not, a mere distraction from the far greater issue of overall toxicity and depletion/extinction. Consider this my most formal endorsement of the release of any and all hidden knowledge/truth that will result in the implementation of whatever advanced sciences that fight toxic degradation and promote all types of regeneration, which obviously would include Contact with intelligent nonhumans if applicable.

This isn't about being a "Chicken Little," not referring to any imminent danger, or as far as I can tell; it's just the basics of smart ecological policy. What better direction away from the endless loop of terroristic Hell and much other evil is there than a new and truly serious focus on environmental protection, preservation? If we can at long last have the right moral and intellectual stuff to get our most literally "down to Earth" act together, it's a cinch that at least enough of our social problems will be solved with the same basic higher energy.

Martyrdom, if truly necessary, is something one should never commit to altogether willingly or naturally, and there's no such thing as fearlessness. Provided there's an intelligent and moral enough cause (what a concept), giving ones life for/to it should be a truly last resort. Any worthwhile martyr is one who is at least minimally sufficiently in touch with life, love, laughter, joy, empathy etc. and balances out (at least) well enough on the "do unto others..." scale, the opposite of the pathological mind of a violently religious zealot (for example).

Unless proved otherwise, I'll always be convinced the ideal and hopefully only way to get the seriously revolutionary-evolutionary "show on the road" -- with and/or without martyrs -- is to create a much more strongly popular culture of whistleblowers, exposers of criminality and corruption, however unrecognized -- stuff that will make Edward Snowden look like a mere warm-up act. Of course I believe there should be particular emphasis on unexplained phenomena...



posted on Apr, 7 2016 @ 06:51 AM
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Kind of hit every rung on the way down there…


Martyrdom, if truly necessary, is something one should never commit to altogether willingly or naturally, and there's no such thing as fearlessness. Provided there's an intelligent and moral enough cause (what a concept), giving ones life for/to it should be a truly last resort. Any worthwhile martyr is one who is at least minimally sufficiently in touch with life, love, laughter, joy, empathy etc. and balances out (at least) well enough on the "do unto others…" scale, the opposite of the pathological mind of a violently religious zealot (for example).

One doesn't choose to martyr themselves as much as they are martyred. Ideology is for the opposing press. Its called a suicide bomb, not a martyr bomb. If they had an air force, carriers and strike aircraft, they wouldn't need to make 'car bombs'.

During WWII the Japanese used "Kamikaze" tactics out of desperation because they were losing the war. They helped convince them to do this by telling them it was honorable, religious even if you like, but really it was a ruse and the subjects, or victims, depending on how you look at it were shepherded into these acts by the promise of Heaven, for their emperor god and country, whatever.

You can believe all that bS about Allah and Paradise, God and Country or you can realize its just another tactic of war, hidden behind a faced of honor and principle.



posted on Apr, 7 2016 @ 07:24 AM
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a reply to: Lightworth

Martyrdom is what every nation or religion would want from its members, if it can get it, but absolutely hate it when the other guy has the power to engage it.



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