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originally posted by: smkymcnugget420
because everyone everywhere stands by, and therefore should be judged by, the things they said 30 years ago
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: DAVID64
Yeah, let's dig back 30+ years to get something. How about we dig up some stupid comment from the host of this, er....entertainment show.
Accused by some of misinforming its core audience of young adults about international news, this series doesn't hide the fact that it's not a news program and only uses newsworthy stories as a jumping-off point to satire.
How far back in to one's history can we look when vetting a political candidate?
People sure like to use Hillary's and Bernie's comments from the 60's and 70's against them. How about holding what Bill Clinton did in the 90's being used against Hillary?
How many years are acceptable?
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: matafuchs
No one gets upset if I guy says she is so ugly no one would wanna marry her, right?
Wait? What?
What kind of a-hole dad would say something like that about their kid? And, yes, I would think it was deplorable and sexist.
Or maybe I am not following you...was this sarcasm?
originally posted by: gator2001
How is complimenting and having pride in your duaghter's beauty discriminating or showing prejudice towards women, the definition of sexism?
He was clearly joking. If you don't like his sense of humor, then that is fine. Putting labels on people indiscriminately is wrong. I thought labels were wrong.
If it comes out that he actually did break any of societies laws in regards to his daughter, then go ahead, but not for a silly joke. That is called slander, is it not?
originally posted by: gator2001
a reply to: MotherMayEye
My apologies for mistaking the quote you were responding to.
I still don't see how that quote is sexist. It is mean and ugly and I would never say something like that.
I just see a lot of words and labels thrown around nowadays and sometimes, it seems like they are misused.
Feel free to explain why that quote is sexist and enlighten me. Maybe I will learn something new today.
At least for now, we can agree that the quote is just a horrible thing to say to someone, especially your own daughter.
Staying on topic, this actually helps in the defense of Trump saying what he did about his daughter. Look at the opposite, such as this quote. It is a horrible thing to say your daughter is ugly, so saying that she is beautiful should be a good thing.
In my opinion, a father showing love towards his child, not making love, but showing pride in his child is a beautiful thing. The opposite is where it is ugly, horrible, and disgusting.
I think it is possible that someone who thinks this about Trump is disturbing might have underlying issues of their own and transfer that to Trump in this case. It's possible, anyways.
Opinion can be slander if it damages one's reputation and is false.
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: gator2001
a reply to: MotherMayEye
My apologies for mistaking the quote you were responding to.
I still don't see how that quote is sexist. It is mean and ugly and I would never say something like that.
I just see a lot of words and labels thrown around nowadays and sometimes, it seems like they are misused.
Feel free to explain why that quote is sexist and enlighten me. Maybe I will learn something new today.
At least for now, we can agree that the quote is just a horrible thing to say to someone, especially your own daughter.
Staying on topic, this actually helps in the defense of Trump saying what he did about his daughter. Look at the opposite, such as this quote. It is a horrible thing to say your daughter is ugly, so saying that she is beautiful should be a good thing.
In my opinion, a father showing love towards his child, not making love, but showing pride in his child is a beautiful thing. The opposite is where it is ugly, horrible, and disgusting.
I think it is possible that someone who thinks this about Trump is disturbing might have underlying issues of their own and transfer that to Trump in this case. It's possible, anyways.
Opinion can be slander if it damages one's reputation and is false.
I think it would be very difficult for Trump to prove he's not a sexist/misogynistic pig and it would be very easy to prove he is.
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: gator2001
a reply to: MotherMayEye
My apologies for mistaking the quote you were responding to.
I still don't see how that quote is sexist. It is mean and ugly and I would never say something like that.
I just see a lot of words and labels thrown around nowadays and sometimes, it seems like they are misused.
Feel free to explain why that quote is sexist and enlighten me. Maybe I will learn something new today.
At least for now, we can agree that the quote is just a horrible thing to say to someone, especially your own daughter.
Staying on topic, this actually helps in the defense of Trump saying what he did about his daughter. Look at the opposite, such as this quote. It is a horrible thing to say your daughter is ugly, so saying that she is beautiful should be a good thing.
In my opinion, a father showing love towards his child, not making love, but showing pride in his child is a beautiful thing. The opposite is where it is ugly, horrible, and disgusting.
I think it is possible that someone who thinks this about Trump is disturbing might have underlying issues of their own and transfer that to Trump in this case. It's possible, anyways.
Opinion can be slander if it damages one's reputation and is false.
Ah, yes everyone who finds it disgusting must have underlying issues. I think anyone feeling a need to defend it has underlying issues. How's that?
It's sexist because it assumes that a woman is not 'marriage-material' if she's "ugly" and assumes that not being married is somehow an unfortunate thing and not a choice a woman can make all by herself and be perfectly happy with.
And, as far as 'slander,' you actually got it correct, in part, this time: It has to be untrue. And anyone claiming slander has to be able to prove it's untrue. I think it would be very difficult for Trump to prove he's not a sexist/misogynistic pig and it would be very easy to prove he is.
originally posted by: gator2001
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: gator2001
a reply to: MotherMayEye
My apologies for mistaking the quote you were responding to.
I still don't see how that quote is sexist. It is mean and ugly and I would never say something like that.
I just see a lot of words and labels thrown around nowadays and sometimes, it seems like they are misused.
Feel free to explain why that quote is sexist and enlighten me. Maybe I will learn something new today.
At least for now, we can agree that the quote is just a horrible thing to say to someone, especially your own daughter.
Staying on topic, this actually helps in the defense of Trump saying what he did about his daughter. Look at the opposite, such as this quote. It is a horrible thing to say your daughter is ugly, so saying that she is beautiful should be a good thing.
In my opinion, a father showing love towards his child, not making love, but showing pride in his child is a beautiful thing. The opposite is where it is ugly, horrible, and disgusting.
I think it is possible that someone who thinks this about Trump is disturbing might have underlying issues of their own and transfer that to Trump in this case. It's possible, anyways.
Opinion can be slander if it damages one's reputation and is false.
Ah, yes everyone who finds it disgusting must have underlying issues. I think anyone feeling a need to defend it has underlying issues. How's that?
It's sexist because it assumes that a woman is not 'marriage-material' if she's "ugly" and assumes that not being married is somehow an unfortunate thing and not a choice a woman can make all by herself and be perfectly happy with.
And, as far as 'slander,' you actually got it correct, in part, this time: It has to be untrue. And anyone claiming slander has to be able to prove it's untrue. I think it would be very difficult for Trump to prove he's not a sexist/misogynistic pig and it would be very easy to prove he is.
Ok...I can see some of what you are saying. To me it is more individual shaming, but if the intent including a preconceived notion of standards that a woman is SUPPOSED to get married, then I can see some harm to women in general.
Let me ask you this. Would you consider it sexist if it was a man that was told he was too ugly to be marriage material? Just curious.
On a funny note: I think it would be easy for Trump to prove he is not a pig. His nose and ears aren't big enough and has no curly tail...lol
originally posted by: boomerang1215
a reply to: FullBloodedNative
I was thinking the same when first read ! You are definitely reaching , when you dig up stuff 30+ years ! Give me a break ! Also him donating towards some Dems campaign through the years. He did it to get want he wanted at that time! Cruz is a snake. This guy has no pride . I understand he does not use his God given name ,Raphael Cruz. The way he played others with stealing their votes ! I have pride and I want a future for my grand babies and their parents ! God bless this Great Nation and vote Donald J Trump ! P.S. Even I do not like what's he is doing now, I like Kasich also.