What a sad state of affairs this country is in

a reply to: onequestion

Not yet, still trying to figure out how to start...

but I still have a couple years before I reach that point, wont be back stateside till 2018, and I will first need to find a job when I return... cause I know myself well enough to know I am not very charismatic(my opinion the wife thinks differently), nor am I the best public speaker so that's 2 strikes against me. On the plus side being fairly conservative (I have my left leaning positions, but I am a traditional conservative, small govt.. balanced budget that sort) and living in Oklahoma the people are kind of in my wheel house for beliefs. Oh yea and my wife is a pagan... so thats probably strike 3 for me but ill give it a go anyways.

So yea I will want income before I take that leap.

a reply to: onequestion

I don't really feel like I am a part of your society nor do I want to be.

I suppose you feel some sort of connection to this society and therefore guilt. Frankly, society is BS and simply exists so people can take advantage of each other. If I have something society offers you a guilt free legal way to steal it from me. I would prefer we all live our own lives and leave each other alone unless we have a mutually agreed upon interaction. As long as we don't infringe on others or their property we don't need the trappings of 'society'.

a reply to: onequestion

Well then you shouldn't raise the minimum wage to $15. It helps raise the costs of everything and helps reduce the purchasing power of those on a fixed income.

a reply to: pl3bscheese

There are many types of strength they say, physical, mental, emotional, financial etc.

The strength a person shows by helping another person less fortunate than themselves is, in my opinion, the kind of strength that gives me hope for our future as a species.

I know you disagree with this ideal, your posts make that clear, but I pity you.

a reply to: Irishhaf

a reply to: onequestion

A far better way (well at least in my view) is to document and spread, penetrate the hearts and minds of people by letting the elderly sharing their story in a documentary on 'elderly' homeless people.
No doubt, the wind has blown wisdom in them, their insight to this problem (they relive it, their life, how they got to the current situation they are in) is the key to solve this.

If the majority supports a change for the better, politicians will have to act accordingly.

a reply to: pl3bscheese

You talk like a man with a paper hindend, both mentally and physically. I have been homeless. I sure as hell am not going to belittle them for where they are at in life. I will lift them up not put them down as you have. Have a good day.

a reply to: pl3bscheese

Ever think that your way of looking at the bottom 10% the way you just did is the heart of the problem?

a reply to: Tarzan the apeman.

Well it's just so easy to demonize and make assumptions of someone calling it like it is.

I've been homeless as well. I just don't understand why anyone would assume the bottom 10% are worthy of our compassion and care automatically. I will choose where my affection and resources go wisely.

a reply to: earthling42

That's not a bad idea, but you need someone who believes in it as well that has either a platform to get the word out; or the money to force the word out.

Kind of like the documenting of veterans stories from WW2... you either need the wealth or the power to control it so unscrupulous types dont take advantage of the program for money... or I just could be a cynic.

Its sad in a way... I see so much competition between the US and Europe, but I see things over here that I absolutely think the US should emulate.. Now the area I am living in may just be weird... but a day doesn't go by where I don't see younger people walking with their grandparents.. or even their parents, staying engaged with them and helping them when they can.

I also see groups of senior citizens that bike ride all over the country side, its encouraging to me to see people not forget the elderly.. I hope to see more of it in America in my lifetime.

a reply to: NewzNose

Sure, I've considered that. I think would be very naive.

a reply to: onequestion

I am not in California. I know how high the taxes are there and the high cost of living.

IN the state I live in we have a place for those mentally stable who may be disabled or just down on their luck. They can stay for $300 a month. Meals are supplied by the food bank and an in house soup kitchen. They are to remain off tobacco, drugs and alcohol any violation will get them booted.

They ones staying there are expected to do some work like cooking, janitorial, house keeping duties, building maintenance, Security, Laundry and help maintain an online page to solicit donations. Others are just required to get a job as greeters or store stock help or just what they can do. This gives them a reason to live more than anything else. But if they have social security then their volunteer work at the center is all they need to participate in.

I cannot post its location without giving up my location and I don't want that right now.

My point is these types of places are out there and if not you can start one. Don't take any Govt money because then you are under their power and control. But there are plenty of people out there who give to these types of helps for our elderly, Vets and just the down and out who aren't section eight.

You allow sociopathic, parasites to lead you. You give up your sovereignty by voting. You are a powerful being. Don't give up your sovereignty to anyone or any god or goddess.

originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: Tarzan the apeman.

Well it's just so easy to demonize and make assumptions of someone calling it like it is.

I've been homeless as well. I just don't understand why anyone would assume the bottom 10% are worthy of our compassion and care automatically. I will choose where my affection and resources go wisely.

We are talking about human beings, not a percentile to be taken advantage of or used. Are you really, honestly that sociopathic?

a reply to: Jonjonj

Buddy, you're the one making assumptions in each reply which in no way reflect my words.

Anyways, I have a project to plow through tonite. I work after my day job as a grunt to get ahead instead of complaining and making excuses.

You have fun further twisting my words to your satisfaction. I'll leave you to it.

I have an idea onequestion, Why don't you write to some architects in your state asking them if its possible for them to design a building for the homeless based on Japanese style capsules that they could try sell to enterprizes interested in making a profit. If they could rent our rooms for $600 month then it should be possible tp make profit on capsules rented out for say $200-300 a month. At the very least it would make them mindful of the situation.

Thanks for caring

a reply to: pl3bscheese

In not really challenging you I'm pointing out how that point of view can be seen from different perspectives.

a reply to: earthling42

Actually I think I'm going to create a homemade documentary on the homeless in California.

Good idea I think it'll be easy for me.

Step 1, get a new laptop and camera, step 2 document and edit and send to Vice News.

Maybe I can find a sponsor.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: onequestion

Well then you shouldn't raise the minimum wage to $15. It helps raise the costs of everything and helps reduce the purchasing power of those on a fixed income.

That point of view is wrong period.

Inflation is happening resulting in the necessity to raise wages.

Sorry but your wrong. Wages are not the only variable involved in determining inflation and no even close to the most important. There are several market forces involved.

a reply to: Irishhaf

But if you speak passionately people will understand you so I think your already making excuses to fail or never try.

a reply to: onequestion

Oh I just got an idea I'm so glad I opened this thread.