Police Officer talks about his experience at Trump's rally in Tucson: AWESOME!

a reply to: Annee

annee, I dont have to prove what MASS COMMUNICATIONS and INDEPENDENT sources have said. I am sorry that is not how this works.

Simply, if they were a minority there would be no problem. People would have BEEN ABLE to go to the events and HAD the events where cancelled.

Those who simply dislike Trump need to take a good hard look at themselves and ask if they are being HONEST and speaking with integrity.

I am not saying you are not, but you have other motives.

You just posed a question akin to asking me to prove that dogs have four legs.

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Annee

annee, I dont have to prove what MASS COMMUNICATIONS and INDEPENDENT sources have said. I am sorry that is not how this works.

Uh huh.

You cannot prove that out of control protesters outnumbered those who weren't.

No, you don't have to.

a reply to: Annee

No I dont.

It doesnt change the fact that ENOUGH were present to BLOCK A HIGHWAY and CLOSE an event consisting of a packed arena.

A few people couldnt do that.

Do you want an exact figure? How does that change what they did?

This is what I am talking about.

INTEGRITY and HONESTY...you are TRYING to ignore the actions of these people.

Do I have to prove we are even having an election? That Obama is our actual president and that the name of this site is ATS?

I mean really.

How does this train of thought you are on help?

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: ReadLeader
a reply to: awareness10

Well there we have it. A black off duty police officer. This is a very good voice of reason. He mentioned multiple times, that the media is responsible for some of the violence and the protesters are the o es being violent. N O T the Trump followers! He states that half the people acting outrageous were African American !!!!-

Applause S&F, great find Aware!!!!

Speaking as a member of the media, those people who are shut up in pens at Trumpster rallies and then pointed at and vilified by a bloviating buffoon in front of a bunch of howling angry people, I have to point out that the above is a load of fetid dingoes kidneys. The media is NOT responsible for the violence, it just reports it. Trump rallies are getting increasingly hate-filled and violent. The man is feeding his base raw meat.

As a member of the media you have no credibility at all, so nothing you say has any meaning.

Actually I write for an insurance journal. So I have access to these awkward little things called 'facts', as I'd hack my own head off with a blunt spoon than work for anything involved with Rupert Murdoch.

You are digging a deeper hole... Media and insurance.
You are not really warming things up.

Personally, I hope that there are more attempts to shut Trump down at more of his rallies.

The continued activity to infringe upon the rights of others is getting interesting.

a reply to: ugmold

So I guess what we are going to wind up with either Hillary, which will be the same road of a descending economy rise of the Oligarchy, or Trump where all Hell will break loose.

Well with Hillary at the Helm, it would most likely be more illegal documents being hidden from the general public, along with Benghazi style happenings, which in my opinion IS Hell. Trump, hm he's never been in Gov't so we really cannot speculate what would happen, but it couldn't be worse than what the Current Admin has created which is anything but good honest or decent.

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Annee

No I dont.

It doesnt change the fact that ENOUGH were present to BLOCK A HIGHWAY and CLOSE an event consisting of a packed arena.

I was in Los Angeles during the Watt's riots.

How it really was compared to the sensationalism in the media - - was quite different.

"If it bleeds, it leads"

You are choosing to believe what you want to.

While the rioting protesters may have been in larger numbers, you don't really know.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: ReadLeader
a reply to: awareness10

Well there we have it. A black off duty police officer. This is a very good voice of reason. He mentioned multiple times, that the media is responsible for some of the violence and the protesters are the o es being violent. N O T the Trump followers! He states that half the people acting outrageous were African American !!!!-

Applause S&F, great find Aware!!!!

Speaking as a member of the media, those people who are shut up in pens at Trumpster rallies and then pointed at and vilified by a bloviating buffoon in front of a bunch of howling angry people, I have to point out that the above is a load of fetid dingoes kidneys. The media is NOT responsible for the violence, it just reports it. Trump rallies are getting increasingly hate-filled and violent. The man is feeding his base raw meat.

As a member of the media you have no credibility at all, so nothing you say has any meaning.

Actually I write for an insurance journal. So I have access to these awkward little things called 'facts', as I'd hack my own head off with a blunt spoon than work for anything involved with Rupert Murdoch.

You are digging a deeper hole... Media and insurance.
You are not really warming things up.

??????????????????????????????????????
I write about everything from asbestos (still damn well happening) to flooding (increasingly happening) to drones (very annoying). Insurers worry about this kind of thing and carry out a lot of research into trends like this. So I have access to 'facts'. This seems to worry you. Fascinating.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Annee

annee, I dont have to prove what MASS COMMUNICATIONS and INDEPENDENT sources have said. I am sorry that is not how this works.

Uh huh.

You cannot prove that out of control protesters outnumbered those who weren't.

No, you don't have to.

I personally believe the violent agitators are the minority - although not as much of a minority as the thugs that exist among Trump supporters (and that does not seem to matter to the people wanting to demonise Trump and everyone who supports him).

The problem I have with the non violent protesters is that when they are interviewed they either have no clue about why they are there or make a statement that is simply not true or resort to some hyperbole about Hitler or some other generalisation. To date I have not heard a single, rational, clear complaint.

There is a lot wrong with Trump as a person (mainly to do with ego) and there is a distinct lack of detail in his method for delivering his policies. They should be debated and challenged, but I don't see shutting down his rallies as a meaningful or measured way of engaging in those discussions.

In fact, I see no basis at all for the nationwide protests (albeit very small). It leads me to believe they are organised by and for people that have some other skin in the game.
I am pretty sure that there are those that go along for the ride too, but they don't seem to be able to explain themselves very well.

a reply to: Annee

Ok were you here at these events?

So what does that tell you? Maybe things arent all like that ONE riot you saw. The Watt's riots have NOTHING to do with this.

Also take that skepticism and apply it here if it is really part of you and see the entire establishment adopting anything goes tactics and so far the moral high ground belongs to the loud mouth simply stating his mind!

THE MSM is saying what you are parroting. Do you not see a problem even WITH your example after what you just said. THEY REPORTED it incorrectly to suit a narrative.....JESUS! Do you not think they are DOING THAT NOW???!!!

Also, WHAT? If it bleeds it leads?
These people HAVE A MISSION STATEMENT to bar access and stop the rallies.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. Not if you like him. I dont even like him.

You are saying now that A MINORITY is doing this? How? A minority cant block a MAJOR through-way and crash an ARENA!

Are you serious annee?

REALLY?

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: ugmold

So I guess what we are going to wind up with either Hillary, which will be the same road of a descending economy rise of the Oligarchy, or Trump where all Hell will break loose.

Well with Hillary at the Helm, it would most likely be more illegal documents being hidden from the general public, along with Benghazi style happenings, which in my opinion IS Hell. Trump, hm he's never been in Gov't so we really cannot speculate what would happen, but it couldn't be worse than what the Current Admin has created which is anything but good honest or decent.

Ha, the only thing Trump says is that he'll make it great with zero details. Being President is not a Job for a Vulture Capitalist that makes product lines with Slave Labor.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
So since it is a black police officer then it must be the end all be all fact of the matter right?

No way the guy could possibly have a horse in the race, I know he says he doesn't but hey people lie.
Wonder how many would take the word of one youtube video saying the opposite of what this guys is saying...

There IS violence from trump supporters, we have those videos too. Not to say that the protesters didn't agitate or engage in their own, but this idea that all trump rallies have been the beacon of peace, from the supporters side, is ridiculous

So you attack someone because his observations is different from your beliefs. Its obvious when you have people entering with KKK hoods they are there to cause a reaction from Trump suporters. I saw a video of the protesters outside and the things they were saying yo people was inappropriate it be like me taking my kids to a movie and someone starts acting a fool. He'd be very lucky if I didn't have a private chat with him as to why he shouldn't speak that way in front of my kids.

Sadly many people like you think its ok to harass and block others from entering an event they payer for. I don't care if its a concert a movie or a rally if I paid no ey to be there the last thing I want is some jerk cursing spitting and causing trouble because he believes he has the right to do whatever he wants and hr is the only one that has ant rights. This same thing was done by the brown shirts under Hitler. They entered public events and attacked anyone who spoke against the Nazi party. For claiming Trunk to be a Nazi ask yourself who is using their tactics.

Funniest part is I don't think Trump should be president either but I also defend the rights of Trump supporters to not have to put up with vulgar sub human animals in an event they paid for.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: ReadLeader
a reply to: awareness10

Well there we have it. A black off duty police officer. This is a very good voice of reason. He mentioned multiple times, that the media is responsible for some of the violence and the protesters are the o es being violent. N O T the Trump followers! He states that half the people acting outrageous were African American !!!!-

Applause S&F, great find Aware!!!!

Speaking as a member of the media, those people who are shut up in pens at Trumpster rallies and then pointed at and vilified by a bloviating buffoon in front of a bunch of howling angry people, I have to point out that the above is a load of fetid dingoes kidneys. The media is NOT responsible for the violence, it just reports it. Trump rallies are getting increasingly hate-filled and violent. The man is feeding his base raw meat.

As a member of the media you have no credibility at all, so nothing you say has any meaning.

Actually I write for an insurance journal. So I have access to these awkward little things called 'facts', as I'd hack my own head off with a blunt spoon than work for anything involved with Rupert Murdoch.

You are digging a deeper hole... Media and insurance.
You are not really warming things up.

??????????????????????????????????????
I write about everything from asbestos (still damn well happening) to flooding (increasingly happening) to drones (very annoying). Insurers worry about this kind of thing and carry out a lot of research into trends like this. So I have access to 'facts'. This seems to worry you. Fascinating.

I hope when you write about asbestos you give some good advice and don't resort the nonsense you opened up with in this thread.
If you care about facts then you will substantiate your first post.

a reply to: ugmold

The race isn't over, it's quite possible he will address these issues soon.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: ReadLeader
a reply to: awareness10

Well there we have it. A black off duty police officer. This is a very good voice of reason. He mentioned multiple times, that the media is responsible for some of the violence and the protesters are the o es being violent. N O T the Trump followers! He states that half the people acting outrageous were African American !!!!-

Applause S&F, great find Aware!!!!

Speaking as a member of the media, those people who are shut up in pens at Trumpster rallies and then pointed at and vilified by a bloviating buffoon in front of a bunch of howling angry people, I have to point out that the above is a load of fetid dingoes kidneys. The media is NOT responsible for the violence, it just reports it. Trump rallies are getting increasingly hate-filled and violent. The man is feeding his base raw meat.

As a member of the media you have no credibility at all, so nothing you say has any meaning.

Actually I write for an insurance journal. So I have access to these awkward little things called 'facts', as I'd hack my own head off with a blunt spoon than work for anything involved with Rupert Murdoch.

You are digging a deeper hole... Media and insurance.
You are not really warming things up.

??????????????????????????????????????
I write about everything from asbestos (still damn well happening) to flooding (increasingly happening) to drones (very annoying). Insurers worry about this kind of thing and carry out a lot of research into trends like this. So I have access to 'facts'. This seems to worry you. Fascinating.

I hope when you write about asbestos you give some good advice and don't resort the nonsense you opened up with in this thread.
If you care about facts then you will substantiate your first post.

??????????????????????????????????????????????? x2
I write about FACTS. Asbestos is lethal over the long term, as every unbiased scientist knows. So when I write about it I state facts.
It's also a fact that in Trump rallies the media are forced into pens and told not to leave. It's a fact that Trump invariably points to them and insults them during his rallies. It's a fact that that the crowd reacts angrily to this. And it's a fact that the media cannot instigate any violence from their pen, they can only report what happens.
Believe it or not, there is no vast media conspiracy against Trump. There are just people who report on what happens. I'm sorry if you believe otherwise. Reality is sadly based on facts.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

But you have only repeated what we all know he has said and explained YOUR OPINION of these comments (with no context given mind you).

You have not offered any facts.

You dont like him OK? And?

Does that change the nature of our grievance with the subversive tactics being employed against Trump?

Do you not want to distance yourself from bully politics and voter intimidation?

Your OPINION says as much, but youre not speaking with integrity when it comes to a person you just dont like. You are over looking what we are talking about.

I didnt know this was a popularity contest in the strictest sense.

a reply to: awareness10

This can't be for real, 'cause you know, the MSM keeps telling us Trump's a racist and bigot, and this guy and any minority for that matter, would've gotten beat up by Trump supporters and thrown out of the rally.

This is a very good video, and the guy seems honest.

These protestors are not only trying to stop people from hearing Trump, they are trying to violently intimidate people from showing support for someone they don't approve of.
That is very un-American.

(I think some of the commenters in this thread have not actually watched the entire video, with descriptions of spitting, grabbing feet of people going up steps, etc.)

Is this what America has become? A country where people can intimidate others in the election process in order to attempt to control the outcome? This seems to be repeated in the media and personal life. People are called names, accused of being stupid or racist - just for supporting a candidate.

People should be able to hear all candidates and make their own decisions - and not be bullied and intimidated in the process.

originally posted by: ugmold

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: ugmold

So I guess what we are going to wind up with either Hillary, which will be the same road of a descending economy rise of the Oligarchy, or Trump where all Hell will break loose.

Well with Hillary at the Helm, it would most likely be more illegal documents being hidden from the general public, along with Benghazi style happenings, which in my opinion IS Hell. Trump, hm he's never been in Gov't so we really cannot speculate what would happen, but it couldn't be worse than what the Current Admin has created which is anything but good honest or decent.

Ha, the only thing Trump says is that he'll make it great with zero details. Being President is not a Job for a Vulture Capitalist that makes product lines with Slave Labor.

Have you ever done any research? His policies are on his websist but I guess its better to just make statements that are false then take the time to do research huh. Here ill give you one of his policies I don't agree with is having china charged with being a currency manipulator by the treasury department. This gives them tthe ability to halt or add additional fines to imports. This would cause products to become unavailable. I know many think that's a good thing problem is there is things now that the only place we can get them from is China. Until recently I thought u dusagreed with building a wall. But the more I think about it we would just be doing what the Europeans are currently in the process of doing.stopping people from illegally entering. Making them have to apply and have security assessments done makes sense. I got into a fight with my brother at first but I now see his point he explained what's going on in Texas and the groups that are sneaking through the border.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: ReadLeader
a reply to: awareness10

Well there we have it. A black off duty police officer. This is a very good voice of reason. He mentioned multiple times, that the media is responsible for some of the violence and the protesters are the o es being violent. N O T the Trump followers! He states that half the people acting outrageous were African American !!!!-

Applause S&F, great find Aware!!!!

Speaking as a member of the media, those people who are shut up in pens at Trumpster rallies and then pointed at and vilified by a bloviating buffoon in front of a bunch of howling angry people, I have to point out that the above is a load of fetid dingoes kidneys. The media is NOT responsible for the violence, it just reports it. Trump rallies are getting increasingly hate-filled and violent. The man is feeding his base raw meat.

As a member of the media you have no credibility at all, so nothing you say has any meaning.

Actually I write for an insurance journal. So I have access to these awkward little things called 'facts', as I'd hack my own head off with a blunt spoon than work for anything involved with Rupert Murdoch.

You are digging a deeper hole... Media and insurance.
You are not really warming things up.

??????????????????????????????????????
I write about everything from asbestos (still damn well happening) to flooding (increasingly happening) to drones (very annoying). Insurers worry about this kind of thing and carry out a lot of research into trends like this. So I have access to 'facts'. This seems to worry you. Fascinating.

I hope when you write about asbestos you give some good advice and don't resort the nonsense you opened up with in this thread.
If you care about facts then you will substantiate your first post.

??????????????????????????????????????????????? x2
I write about FACTS. Asbestos is lethal over the long term, as every unbiased scientist knows. So when I write about it I state facts.
It's also a fact that in Trump rallies the media are forced into pens and told not to leave. It's a fact that Trump invariably points to them and insults them during his rallies. It's a fact that that the crowd reacts angrily to this. And it's a fact that the media cannot instigate any violence from their pen, they can only report what happens.
Believe it or not, there is no vast media conspiracy against Trump. There are just people who report on what happens. I'm sorry if you believe otherwise. Reality is sadly based on facts.

This just sounds like you are aggrieved at being called dishonest and the crowd booing you, so you lash out at Trump.
We could probably run a thread of a million posts and create an internet record on the examples of the media smearing and misrepresenting Trump. When the media behaves honestly and with integrity then they won't be called disgusting and dishonest. Until then, if the shoe fits...