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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
It certainly wasn't very "Christian" of him to not help a 12 year old kid who needed to call his parents.
See, that's not the definition of "oppression", that's a human rights violation.
originally posted by: NthOther
When has a Christian violated your inalienable rights (oppression), personally, as a human being? Tell us a story.
If this is, in fact, what the title of your thread should have been, I'd say to you:
originally posted by: NthOther
a reply to: AshOnMyTomatoes
Cool definitions.
How does Christianity violate your human rights today, personally?
I'm not the one playing with semantics. Persecution, oppression, and human rights violations are not interchangeable terms. However, you have used them as such throughout this thread, as people have brought you examples of oppression and persecution and you have dismissed them.
originally posted by: NthOther
a reply to: AshOnMyTomatoes
Would it make you feel better if I changed it?
We all know exactly what is meant by the thread title (and explicated in the OP), but if playing semantics makes you feel smart, have at it.
You're playing his (her?) "game" alright. Otherwise, you wouldn't be posting anything in this thread.
Why won't you list those instances? NthOther hasn't belittled others for expressing their personal experiences. I'm sure he'd respond to yours in a fair manner like he did with annee earlier.
It's a legitimate question that can be used to communicate and understand each other's perceived plights in an effort to resolve our grievances against one another in a diplomatic fashion. There's no reason to be indignant.
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
It's obvious that this is a troll thread, you never intended to accept anyone's answers to your question.
originally posted by: Klassified
I get it. The OP is butthurt because he/she has been called on the carpet for crying persecution against Christians, when in reality, the so-called persecution was brought on by Christians themselves, because most of them have little respect for anyone elses right to believe differently than they do.
Because the question itself is bull#. Its premised on a hypothetical "they" asking a hypothetical question that no one has asked.
originally posted by: NthOther
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
It's obvious that this is a troll thread, you never intended to accept anyone's answers to your question.
Few people have answered the question.
Few people can answer the question.
That's the point. Call it what you will.
Those directives are set by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, which consider abortion and sterilization “intrinsically evil.” Catholic hospitals, which constitute more than 12 percent of hospitals in the U.S., have applied those rules to women in life-threatening circumstances.
One of those women is Jessica Mann, whose Michigan Catholic hospital refused to perform a tubal ligation despite recommendations from her doctors. Mann has a dangerous brain tumor, and getting pregnant again could pose serious health threats. In September, ACLU of Michigan sent a letter to the hospital urging them to reconsider the refusal. The hospital stood by their decision, citing the Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Facilities.
“Rejecting us seems arbitrary and cruel,” Mann’s husband wrote in an essay published on Refinery 29.
In December 2013, ACLU sued the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops on behalf on Tamesha Means, whose water broke when she was 18 weeks pregnant. Instead of terminating the pregnancy and safely completing the miscarriage, Means said the Catholic hospital gave her false hope that the fetus could survive. After getting sent home twice, enduring “excruciating pain,” and developing an infection, Means finally miscarried the fetus in a painful, prolonged delivery, according to the lawsuit. That case is currently on appeal.
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You've used interchangeably the three terms I mentioned in a single post. Well done.
originally posted by: NthOther
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
My point is that the very same people who complain about "throat shoving" and Christian oppression can't provide any examples of it in their own lives.
They use being offended as their only excuse to cry persecution, because they haven't got anything better. They don't have any experiences of their rights being violated, so they derail the discussion any way they can.
The ones who have shared their legitimate negative experiences I've left alone, if you haven't noticed.