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If Trump doesn't get to 1,237, delegates at the convention will cast ballots. If no one reaches the 1,237 threshold on a first ballot, Trump, Cruz and Kasich can try to pick off each other’s delegates. That makes it important for the campaigns to try to solidify loyalty among those serving as delegates at the convention. The candidates also could make the play for the group of Rubio delegates who can be released by the candidate and will go to the convention unbound ahead of the first ballot.
“Nothing has changed other than the perception that this is more likely to be an open convention than we thought before,” Ryan, the ceremonial chairman of the convention, told reporters. “We’re getting our minds around the idea that this could very well become a reality and that those of us who are involved in the convention need to respect that.” The Speaker’s comments Thursday suggest party leaders are beginning to prepare for a floor fight at the convention at Quicken Loans Arena in downtown Cleveland. When The Hill asked him in January about a possible contested convention, Ryan dismissed the idea. “I think it’s ridiculous to talk about it,” he said at the GOP retreat in Baltimore
Drumpf can have more delegates than Cruz, Rubio or Kasich on round one at the convention but if he walks in with less than 1,237, then just as in 1860 it goes to round two where delegates are no longer bound to any candidate. In 1860 in Chicago at the Republican Party's second convention no less, they had a contested/brokered convention. Imagine that. Seward had 173 and 1/2 to Lincoln's 102 but it still went to round 2 because neither had the magic number. Lincoln's managers (Davis and Judd) maneuvered and got Lincoln the magic number on round three. If Drumpf walks in with less than 1.237 (magic number in 2016) he can say he has more than the others but Seward had more and it went to round two anyway. Same for today if you don't have the magic number. On round two, if Cruz, Kasich and Rubio's delegates were a combined total of 1,237 on round one, their delegates can end up being cobbled together in round two or three and if they come to an agreement of some sort it is over. Period.
originally posted by: onequestion
So last time there was a brokered convention there was also a civil war?
Damn...
Any US presidential race is hot-ticket international news. But this one comes at a time of deep global insecurity. Mr. Trump’s status as an unknown quantity feeds nations’ worries about everything from the continuation of their trade deals to military ties.
originally posted by: Khaleesi
Check out this article:
www.nytimes.com...
I don't think anyone knows what is going to happen. People have been predicting all sorts of things since the beginning. Most of them have been wrong. Who knows? I'm just going to sit and watch as it unfolds. I'm making no predictions.
originally posted by: Khaleesi
a reply to: Boscowashisnamo
I understand what you are saying but did you actually read the article? It has an interactive graphic. It is interesting because it has the ability to assign percentage of support to the 3 remaining candidates and show the resulting delegate projections based on the rules of each of the states.
originally posted by: onequestion
So last time there was a brokered convention there was also a civil war?
originally posted by: Khaleesi
a reply to: Boscowashisnamo
I hear ya! I'm just not making any predictions either way. So many predictions this political season and most have been wrong. Especially those predicting his down fall. Predictions from supposed experts, no less. What's gonna happen? I have no idea. I'm just sitting back and watching.
originally posted by: Boscowashisnamo
I will go on record as being wrong when this race started, predicting Trump was pumping up his "brand" and when the publicity stunt got stale, he would drop out. Boy was I wrong...
originally posted by: Boscowashisnamo
originally posted by: Khaleesi
a reply to: Boscowashisnamo
I understand what you are saying but did you actually read the article? It has an interactive graphic. It is interesting because it has the ability to assign percentage of support to the 3 remaining candidates and show the resulting delegate projections based on the rules of each of the states.
Sure did read the article. The premise that Trump's current path will lead him to get the delegates needed is predicated on winning states like NY and especially California. I wouldn't bank on him winning the latter, and if he can't, his nomination bid is anything but secured.
With the candidates competing for three delegates in each of California's 53 congressional districts -- and another 13 for winning the statewide vote -- Trump will have to close the deal with voters from Siskiyou County all the way down to the border, where he wants to build a "beautiful wall." And he will have to fend off a challenge on the right by Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and on the left by Ohio Gov. John Kasich, who beat Trump in his home state Tuesday. "What we can see from here on out is a two-front war where Kasich needs to steal delegates from Trump in blue districts and Cruz needs to steal votes in red districts," said David Wasserman of the highly respected Cook Political Report.
"There is a way to get over the top -- and that is California," he said. But the Golden State -- which will account for more than half of the delegates awarded when California and four other states vote on June 7 -- presents problems for Trump: The GOP primary is only open to registered Republicans, who have been less bullish on Trump than independent voters. Trump also will have to deal with a Cruz campaign that has been on the ground organizing for months and a Kasich campaign that could rake in Silicon Valley money and poll well in more moderate areas.
originally posted by: Arizonaguy
originally posted by: Boscowashisnamo
originally posted by: Khaleesi
a reply to: Boscowashisnamo
I understand what you are saying but did you actually read the article? It has an interactive graphic. It is interesting because it has the ability to assign percentage of support to the 3 remaining candidates and show the resulting delegate projections based on the rules of each of the states.
Sure did read the article. The premise that Trump's current path will lead him to get the delegates needed is predicated on winning states like NY and especially California. I wouldn't bank on him winning the latter, and if he can't, his nomination bid is anything but secured.
Trump is leading in recent polls in California despite doing absolutely nothing in the state. Conversely, Cruz is behind even though he has a network set up in every California County. Word is, is that Trump is ready to start campaigning in the state. If he is already leading despite doing absolutely nothing, I think California is his for the taking.