Mississippi bill would require teachers to grade parents

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: eisegesis

I don't get it. I always hear conservatives assert over and over that the parents know better than the teachers how to educate their children. Why are so many upset over a plan that will hold them accountable and to back up their talk with actions?

Exactly!

Complain, complain, complain.

But, when someone introduces a new idea involving responsibility - - - - nope, nope - - can't do that.

No one ever wants to actually do anything.

I think, and from my view it is, that we are complaining because of the huge assumptions that would need to be made in grading parents.

Teachers don't have the slightest clue what affects home life.
Too many variables for the underprivileged in life for some smarmy arsed teacher to come along and give parents, or most likely, single parents an F.

What the F do they Fing know.


Why not have a normal conversation with people.



They want us all uncommunicative and apathetic.

This is overreach.

originally posted by: ckhk3
Yes there are those who do it because they love it, now days they do it for the money.

Those damn teachers and their Ferraris and million dollar homes. How dare they!

originally posted by: Hazardous1408

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: eisegesis

I don't get it. I always hear conservatives assert over and over that the parents know better than the teachers how to educate their children. Why are so many upset over a plan that will hold them accountable and to back up their talk with actions?

Exactly!

Complain, complain, complain.

But, when someone introduces a new idea involving responsibility - - - - nope, nope - - can't do that.

No one ever wants to actually do anything.

I think, and from my view it is, that we are complaining because of the huge assumptions that would need to be made in grading parents.

Teachers don't have the slightest clue what affects home life.
Too many variables for the underprivileged in life for some smarmy arsed teacher to come along and give parents, or most likely, single parents an F.

What the F do they Fing know.

Why not have a normal conversation with people.

They want us all uncommunicative and apathetic.

This is overreach.

So, you've provided excuses.

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: ckhk3
Yes there are those who do it because they love it, now days they do it for the money.

Those damn teachers and their Ferraris and million dollar homes. How dare they!

What teachers do you know that drive Ferraris?

Have you checked on teachers salaries lately?

a reply to: Annee

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic about the blatant sarcasm...

Stupid internet.

a reply to: Annee

Excuses?

What are you talking about?


Only "excuse" you'll get out of me is EXCUSE ME, I thought you were intelligent enough to comprehend that underprivileged children & families in general will suffer the most from this draconian bull#.


Do you know what drug addiction does?
Do you know what a broken home does?
Do you know what domestic violence does?


It makes school a mere secondary and meaningless daily activity.

If my mum had got an F for my behaviour in school I'd have #ing burned it to the ground.

a reply to: eisegesis

I'm sorry, but parents should shoulder the majority of the blame. Not all of it, mind you, but most of it.

Who's fault is it, if schools aren't held accountable, or rather the teachers aren't? The taxpayers, among whom are, one would surmise, those very parents.

As for grading? That's kinda silly.

Whatever good comes out of a public school system is directly attributable to the parents first, and second, with the schools third. I recall being bored to tears in school, what kept me going wasn't the teachers, though I had some who were very good, it was my mother and my father.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: Annee

Excuses?

What are you talking about?


Only "excuse" you'll get out of me is EXCUSE ME, I thought you were intelligent enough to comprehend that underprivileged children & families in general will suffer the most from this draconian bull#.


Do you know what drug addiction does?
Do you know what a broken home does?
Do you know what domestic violence does?


It makes school a mere secondary and meaningless daily activity.

If my mum had got an F for my behaviour in school if have #ing burned it to the ground.

I was an underprivileged kid.

I came from a broken home. My dad ran off with another woman because my mom came down with polio and was disabled.

There are plenty of successful people who came out of less then perfect circumstances.

Its an excuse.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: ckhk3
Yes there are those who do it because they love it, now days they do it for the money.

Those damn teachers and their Ferraris and million dollar homes. How dare they!

What teachers do you know that drive Ferraris?

Have you checked on teachers salaries lately?

You don't do sarcasm well do you?

a reply to: Annee

...kid...

...Being the operative word, not all KIDS react the same to stressful situations...

To go further than that a practically label people unfit parents does no end of injustice.



Wow you're strong, so strong that you can look down on others.

Pathetic.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: Annee

...kid...

...Being the operative word, not all KIDS react the same to stressful situations...

To go further than that a practically label people unfit parents does no end of injustice.



Wow you're strong, so strong that you can look down on others.

Pathetic.

You can't see that you are still making excuses.

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: ckhk3
Yes there are those who do it because they love it, now days they do it for the money.

Those damn teachers and their Ferraris and million dollar homes. How dare they!

What teachers do you know that drive Ferraris?

Have you checked on teachers salaries lately?

You don't do sarcasm well do you?

Doesn't always translate on the net.

But, good to know that was sarcasm.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: Annee

...kid...

...Being the operative word, not all KIDS react the same to stressful situations...

To go further than that a practically label people unfit parents does no end of injustice.



Wow you're strong, so strong that you can look down on others.

Pathetic.

You can't see that you are still making excuses.

It's an "excuse" that kids factually are biologically and chemically different to one another and therefore react in different manners to different levels of stress???

What sort of robot are you?

& why do you insist on projecting your emotionless drivel onto children and their parent's hardships?

FFS people.

Do you have any idea what teachers have to deal with? They're trying to give your kid an education, help them grow and learn skills that will allow them to become self reliant and able to learn more, go to college or at least do basic math and communication skills so they don't wind up handing out fries.

You don't just ship your kid off to school and expect them to parent for you. A child's education starts and ends at home. Parent's need to be involved. If you don't hold the child accountable at home or help them with their homework you are a asshole and stunting your child's growth. You don't have to have all the answers, but you can hold your child accountable. There's only so much a school can do. If your kid is failing you need to be actively involved and figure out options to help them succeed.

Parents should be graded. They are more than half of a child's education. They are the thing that holds the child accountable.

a reply to: Hazardous1408

Teachers don't have the slightest clue what affects home life.

I wouldn't say that. Most importantly, they need to know what's going on in their own lives, not yours or mine. Little government informants who should keep their opinions to themselves unless there is obvious harm being done to the child. I guess some feel that a parents lack of involvement in their child's education is the greatest harm they're allowing to happen. Ironically, they can now blame the system for their child's poor grades. Responsibility is severely lacking on both ends.

originally posted by: Domo1
FFS people.

Do you have any idea what teachers have to deal with? They're trying to give your kid an education, help them grow and learn skills that will allow them to become self reliant and able to learn more, go to college or at least do basic math and communication skills so they don't wind up handing out fries.

OMG seriously!

I work very closely with the school and teachers of my 8 year old high functioning autistic grandson.

What these teachers are expected to do today is insane. I don't know how they do it.

The whole school has been amazing to work with.

I get really annoyed at some parents who constantly complain that school work takes up too much of their time.

a reply to: eisegesis

How can they begin to grade parents if they haven't the slightest clue as to what home life is like?

What if the child is just a disobedient little punk when it comes to schooling, through no fault of the parent(s)?

What if a childhood trauma affected the way they learn?


Grading parents is bull# unless the teachers know what the parents are actually up to.


And they wouldn't know that even if they were in contact with the parents because the parents could just lie!



What good do these grades do exactly?

a reply to: Hazardous1408

If my mum had got an F for my behaviour in school I'd have #ing burned it to the ground.

Interesting reaction.

What good do these grades do exactly?

How's your reading?
billstatus.ls.state.ms.us...

a reply to: Domo1

You don't just ship your kid off to school and expect them to parent for you. A child's education starts and ends at home. Parent's need to be involved. If you don't hold the child accountable at home or help them with their homework you are a asshole and stunting your child's growth. You don't have to have all the answers, but you can hold your child accountable. There's only so much a school can do. If your kid is failing you need to be actively involved and figure out options to help them succeed.

You nailed it right there, home is where it begins and ends.....

I see so many kids spend far too much time being raised by a screen, parents need to be seriously active in their kids lives if not the cats and the cradle will be repeated over and over...

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: ckhk3
Yes there are those who do it because they love it, now days they do it for the money.

Those damn teachers and their Ferraris and million dollar homes. How dare they!

Seriously, when they are making nearly $100,000 a year just to hand out work without helping the children when they need it it's a problem.