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The suit alleges that the agency recruits foreign models with promises of wages that never materialize and defrauds the U.S. government on visa applications. Palmer is currently the only plaintiff and the suit has not yet been approved as a class-action.
They also wonder just how far the alleged abuses go. "The real question," said New York immigration attorney Steve Maggi, "is if Trump does this in this case, how systematic is it?"
"Ms. Palmer will receive compensation of at least $75,000 per year," the agency's president Corinne Nicolas said in a letter to immigration officials. "She is a model whose services have been in great demand, and whose proposed temporary presence in the United States has stirred great anticipation by Trump Model Management and its clientele."
Experts say that the firm was required by law to pay the amount stated on Palmer's visa -- in this case, $75,000 a year. Even more egregious, they say, was that the Trump agency didn't pay the "prevailing wage" determined by the U.S. government (which is based on the industry and location).
originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
a reply to: reldra
You are a shameless race baiter.
originally posted by: Edumakated
a reply to: reldra
There can't be a "prevailing wage" in modeling because models work on commission. It may be totally true the average model makes $75k. However, this is not a salary. It is commissions earned from being chosen for shoots.
In my business, it would be totally accurate to say the average person at my company makes $200,000 / yr in commissions. However, we do have a high number of employees who barely make $30k / yr. It is a tough business and 20% of the employees are responsible for 80% of the commissions earned. The low earners tend to washout relatively quickly. Come and go after they figure out they don't have what it takes.
If I were trying to hire an H1-b and I filled out the application, it would not be a lie to say expected income of this person is $200,000. However, beyond that, I cannot guarantee their earnings as it is not a salaried position. They either are successful or they aren't.
Even in the article you linked, it notes that there is a disconnect in the immigration law and how the modeling agency business works. Given foreigners are often in high demand for unusual beauty which is why they'd want to bring her here for work. She was paid for worked booked through the agency. This is nothing more than a failed model.
originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: Edumakated
The case is different when a company fills out an H1B, says the model will make at least that amount and then the person, here on an H1B receives less than $5,000 in 3 years.
The company thought she would be successful, they fill out the H1B to get her here. What they write down they must pay= actually they must pay the prevailing wage- and what they wrote down is even lower than the prevailing wage for that job in that city.
It is all very clear in the article, a dozen experts were questioned.
originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
a reply to: reldra
I am not calling names.
You chose to classify this as "slave labor" in your title without any supporting evidence. That is textbook race-baiting.
It trivializes and demeans the millions of women and children experiencing real slavery in muslim countries today and all people who have experienced real slavery throughout history.
originally posted by: reldra
originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
a reply to: reldra
I am not calling names.
You chose to classify this as "slave labor" in your title without any supporting evidence. That is textbook race-baiting.
It trivializes and demeans the millions of women and children experiencing real slavery in muslim countries today and all people who have experienced real slavery throughout history.
You called me a race baiter. I would imagine bringing someone to NYC and then paying them $5,000 over 3 years would be slave labor. I didn't trivialize anyone else nor mention any race.
originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: reldra
originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
a reply to: reldra
I am not calling names.
You chose to classify this as "slave labor" in your title without any supporting evidence. That is textbook race-baiting.
It trivializes and demeans the millions of women and children experiencing real slavery in muslim countries today and all people who have experienced real slavery throughout history.
You called me a race baiter. I would imagine bringing someone to NYC and then paying them $5,000 over 3 years would be slave labor. I didn't trivialize anyone else nor mention any race.
Bringing them to NYC and only paying them $5k isn't slave labor. It is a bad investment....
The more money the model makes, the more money the agency makes. Agencies want models who are bookable. Not dead weight. The company LOST MONEY on this chick. it won't go anywhere.
Worst case scenario, government might claim some technicality, but the most certainly won't be able to show that Trump Agency took advantage of this chick. You aren't taking advantage of someone if you are losing money on them....
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: reldra
Pretty much , and not surprised at all , the man is a flat out liar
He says whatever he needs to to pander to his base, and they eat it up without thinking twice or fact checking him.
I started a thread today about the lawsuit against him for his "Trump University" , brought about by the NY attorney General, and Ive gotten nothing but vitriolic hate from his supporters.....
Its really really amusing
originally posted by: Edumakated
Models essentially work on commission. The agency arranges for jobs from clients which is why they get 20% of the models earnings. However, the agency is not entirely responsible for the models employment.
If a typical model makes $75k, then it is not inaccurate to say that. However, the agency cannot guarantee employment as the model is essentially hired for individual jobs.
Sounds like another case of someone who thought they'd be successful, but failed miserably and see an opportunity to sue someone with deep pockets rather than admit their own failure.