Email Scandal: Hillary Clinton’s Last Defense Just Blew Up

originally posted by: NewzNose
a reply to: Sillyolme

My arsenal is full. Why she should be president. What good things the Clinton foundation had done. Her early history in civil rights. The fact that she has more experience than any of the others.

And yet you fail to answer my question. What kind of person does supporting HC make YOU?

Or...mention any of the good things but mearly hint that there are any.

Experience, yeah. You know that people who are poor at their Federal jobs still get retirement, right?

It's been mentioned many times before that you and others that believe she is guilty, are concocting a great conspiracy around this issue and are setting yourselves up for failure.

You guys don't understand what retroactive classification is. You don't understand that many of the things you claim she is guilty of, is/was perfectly legal and you don't understand the concept of innocent until proven guilty.

So the real question is what kind of person condemns another person to guilt without due process and a solid understanding of the law?

This is a witch hunt. You guys are trying to burn her at the stake for things you have absolutely no understanding of.

I would say that I can't wait for this issue to be done and over with, but even if she is found innocent of any wrongdoing, you guys will cry conspiracy for decades to come.

It's illogical, and outright stupid.

a reply to: sdcigarpig

The existence of the private server itself is not the main issue.

It's the classified material that was transmitted both ways that is being investigated.

We know the server was hacked.

So that make it wide open for planned and unplanned espionage.

We also know at least one person government employee directly involved has been granted immunity by the FBI.

Immunity is only granted when criminal activity existed.

a reply to: eluryh22

I would say it also lends to show how stupid she thinks the rest of us are.

Sadly she is absolutely right in this case.

There are apparently real people that still support her , overlook all the coincidences , and lies associated with both Clintons. They don't even question the fact why would a politician that is trying to be transparent have their own email server to conduct gov't business?

The smartest Hillary supporters are the ones that are too embarrassed to admit they support her in public.

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This article has links to past connections and links to the actual emails on the State Department website...
Hillary Asked Adviser To Pass Sid Blumenthal Memo To White House ‘Unidentified’

The newest batch of Hillary Clinton emails provides more evidence that the former secretary of state did not want government officials to know that she had an intelligence-sharing relationship with Sidney Blumenthal, her longtime friend.

But while previous releases have included at least two emails showing Clinton asking aides to remove information identifying Blumenthal as the sender of intelligence reports, one released by the State Department on Monday shows that she wanted to conceal the evidence from the White House.

“This is informative,” Clinton wrote to her foreign policy adviser, Jake Sullivan, along with a memo from Blumenthal about happenings in Libya.

“Should we pass on (unidentified) to WH +/or other agencies?” she asked.

“Pls print three copies but remove the heading from Sid so it is just the memo from Joe to me,” she wrote to an aide on Sept. 30, 2010. Blumenthal had forwarded Clinton a letter from their mutual friend, former Amb. Joseph Wilson.

older story from Feb 16 2016

a reply to: xuenchen

It's the classified material that was transmitted both ways that is being investigated.

Retroactive classification.

We know the server was hacked.

So that make it wide open for planned and unplanned espionage.

No, we do not know that. That was a lie spread by the Right Wing nutter sites, all because one email had an attachment that may have contained malware/spyware. It was never opened and it was dismissed as being insignificant.

We also know at least one person government employee directly involved has been granted immunity by the FBI.

Immunity is only granted when criminal activity existed.

That is also not true. One individual was granted immunity, but that does not mean it is proof of criminal activity. Immunity was granted so that the person could discuss the issue without incriminating themselves.

And I am going to bring it up again as I have done numerous times. There is more to this than meets the eye. Barack Obama failed to appoint the requisite permanent Inspector General for the State Department during her entire time there when six billion dollars went missing. An official IG would have caught it and stopped it. For me, one of the biggest questions is, 'was Obama complicit, negligent, inept, or did he have an ulterior motive for not assigning a State Dept. IG?

a reply to: queenofswords

$6 billion did not go missing. It was an issue with proper filing of contract agreements.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: queenofswords

$6 billion did not go missing. It was an issue with proper filing of contract agreements.

Yeah...I read that explanation...lol!

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: queenofswords

$6 billion did not go missing. It was an issue with proper filing of contract agreements.

Yeah...I read that explanation...lol!

Reject it if you want. Fact remains that there is not a $6 billion hole in the SD budget. It all boils down to paperwork.

a reply to: introvert

Even if you bought that explanation, it still does not negate the fact that a permanent IG would have caught the shell game with the contracts.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: queenofswords

$6 billion did not go missing. It was an issue with proper filing of contract agreements.

Yeah...I read that explanation...lol!

Reject it if you want. Fact remains that there is not a $6 billion hole in the SD budget. It all boils down to paperwork.

That is what covers most cases of embezzlement, paperwork.

a reply to: butcherguy

Since the foundations interests were global, in particular issues concerning women's rights, and education why shouldn't they take global contributions?
In your article there were successes and disappointments in Hati. You can't please all of the people all of the time. Every organisation will have its successful endeavors and it's failures. They were there though trying to make a real difference in those people's lives.
The fact is the Clinton foundation has improved the station of women across the globe through awareness and education. There is still a long way to go but at least there are people still willing to bravely make these strides.

Questions about contributions doesn't necessarily mean wrong doing but here we are again. Oh my Gawd any question is automatically a conviction to some people.
It's Washington people. Back stabbing capitol of the world.

a reply to: NewzNose

Again none of your business either way dude.
And not contributing to the discussion.

If this conversation continues to devolve I'm not going to continue my side. Then you can all just agree with one and other and smile and say we did good.
Way to go.

More questionable activity.....

Senior Clinton aide maintained top secret clearance amid email probe, letters show

A senior Hillary Clinton aide has maintained her top secret security clearance despite sending information now deemed classified to the Clinton Foundation and to then-Secretary of State Clinton's private unsecured email account, according to congressional letters obtained by Fox News.

Current and former intelligence officials say it is standard practice to suspend a clearance pending the outcome of an investigation. Yet in the case of Cheryl Mills, Clinton’s former chief of staff at the State Department, two letters indicate this practice is not being followed -- even as the Clinton email system remains the subject of an FBI investigation.

In an Oct. 30, 2015, letter to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Charles Grassley, R-Iowa -- who has been aggressively investigating the Clinton email case -- Mills' lawyer Beth A. Wilkinson confirmed that her client “has an active Top Secret clearance." The letter said previous reporting from the State Department that the clearance was no longer active was wrong and due to "an administrative error."

A second letter dated Feb. 18, 2016 from the State Department's assistant secretary for legislative affairs, Julia Frifield, provided additional details to Grassley about the "administrative error." It, too, confirmed Mills maintained the top secret clearance.

Cheryl Mills Corporatist

a reply to: xuenchen

Fox again. What a surprise. I think we've shown their bias but if not here ya go foxy my friend.


mediamatters.org...
It's a bit of a read but does provide sources for its content both pro and con .

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: introvert

Even if you bought that explanation, it still does not negate the fact that a permanent IG would have caught the shell game with the contracts.

There was an interim IG in place and you assume some "game" was being played with the money.

You start off with a conspiracy without having any facts.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: queenofswords

$6 billion did not go missing. It was an issue with proper filing of contract agreements.

Yeah...I read that explanation...lol!

Reject it if you want. Fact remains that there is not a $6 billion hole in the SD budget. It all boils down to paperwork.

That is what covers most cases of embezzlement, paperwork.

Conspiracy.....of course.

a reply to: butcherguy

Since I'm still waiting on a source from the OP it's impossible to acknowledge that something like that even happened.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: xuenchen

Fox again. What a surprise. I think we've shown their bias but if not here ya go foxy my friend.

So you claim the official statements are somehow false.

You guys should know the OP has vanished. Drive by posting I guess to stir the pot . No source though.
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