Massachusetts Votors Call For Arrest of Bill Clinton and Revote Over Polling Malfeasance

originally posted by: Gryphon66


Well, it is about Bill Clinton ... and the petition that you're claiming is made up of Masschusetts voters calling for his arrest ...

Oh glad we got that part down...

you know ... the one started by an activist from Chicago???

Oh...the irony of that statement.

Is she a community activist?

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: Gryphon66


Well, it is about Bill Clinton ... and the petition that you're claiming is made up of Masschusetts voters calling for his arrest ...

Oh glad we got that part down...

you know ... the one started by an activist from Chicago???

Oh...the irony of that statement.

Is she a community activist?

So ... you don't care to address the dishonestly of your claim that the petition you're touting is made up of Massachusetts voters?

I'm not surprised. But your contention in the OP is patently false. The "petition" was started by the leftist lady from Chicago who is, significantly, a rather rabid BERNIE supporter ...

so, yah ... this is TOTALLY not connected to "politics as usual" ... right?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
... and further, since this is all about, you know, "law and order" and not about hypocritical politics ... where are the calls for Boston Mayor Marty Walsh's arrest?

I mean ... he broke the law too?

Did the Mayor break the law?
How so?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
The "petition" was started by the leftist lady from Chicago who is, significantly, a rather rabid BERNIE supporter ...

Now your back at the lady again. How do you know she is 'leftist"?
I am not entirely sure what that term means to you?

Do you dislike "leftists" and people who love whales?
You think they cant start petitions, or what?

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: Gryphon66
... and further, since this is all about, you know, "law and order" and not about hypocritical politics ... where are the calls for Boston Mayor Marty Walsh's arrest?

I mean ... he broke the law too?

Did the Mayor break the law?
How so?

You didn't read the articles you posted???

Okay.

The accusations began after Clinton and Boston Mayor Marty Walsh went inside a polling place in West Roxbury on Tuesday to shake hands, chat up voters, pose for photos, and thank election volunteers. A spokeswoman for Walsh’s office said that the two were not campaigning inside the polling place.

from your linked article at boston.com ....

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: Gryphon66
The "petition" was started by the leftist lady from Chicago who is, significantly, a rather rabid BERNIE supporter ...

Now your back at the lady again. How do you know she is 'leftist"?
I am not entirely sure what that term means to you?

Do you dislike "leftists" and people who love whales?
You think they cant start petitions, or what?

Why are you trying so desperately to muddy the waters?

The petition was STARTED by "the lady" that I linked earlier. You might know this if you had bothered to read your sources.

How do I know she is "leftist" ... LOL ... now you want to find evidence for tossing that around?

Okay, not that hard ..

1. She's a passionate Bernie Sanders supporter.
2. She's devoted (literally) to "saving the whales" and many other animal rights activist causes ... more than enough for the normal right-winger epithet of "leftist" here ... and not to mention ...
3. She's a passionate Bernie Sanders supporter.

You really don't know anything about your claims about your sources except that they're anti-Clinton ... do you?

No, I didn't offer any critique of her efforts, you are doing that even though you don't see that you are.

My point is clear. You didn't read your own sources.

originally posted by: Gryphon66


Okay.

The accusations began after Clinton and Boston Mayor Marty Walsh went inside a polling place in West Roxbury on Tuesday to shake hands, chat up voters, pose for photos, and thank election volunteers. A spokeswoman for Walsh’s office said that the two were not campaigning inside the polling place.

Well, clearly since we have video of Bill inside the polling place, thats that.

But we don't have video of the Mayor inside.
Lets hope whoever finds that video isn't a "leftist".

You really don't know anything about your claims about your sources except that they're anti-Clinton ... do you?

All of the sources in the OP are "mainstream". Local Boston News outlets...etc.
Anti-Clinton? As in what, like a right wing conspiracy or something?

a reply to: burntheships

Yep. He's inside the polling place, so was the Mayor of Boston. That's not against the law.

May I suggest your read your sources? That might help your argument.

originally posted by: Gryphon66


Yep. He's inside the polling place, so was the Mayor of Boston. That's not against the law.

But approaching voters, and saying "pull the lever for my wife" ...
that is "campaigning", which Bill did.

And he was "reminded" several times that he was breaking the rules.

a reply to: burntheships

But approaching voters, and saying "pull the lever for my wife"

Video?

WHAT'S TRUE: Bill Clinton was filmed inside a polling place in West Roxbury; Massachusetts state officials called the campaign to "remind" the Clintons of polling place laws; the state maintained they were unaware of any illegal activity.

snopes.com

But yeah, sure, "the lady" from Chicago starts a petition on change.org and this PROVES that Clinton is guilty!

Heck, why even bother to arrest him? Just give him his ticket and let's move on.

What a sad, pathetic non-issue.

a reply to: Gryphon66

You left out the part of Snopes that is What is True.

Mixture


WHAT'S TRUE: Bill Clinton was filmed inside a polling place in West Roxbury; Massachusetts state officials called the campaign to "remind" the Clintons of polling place laws; the state maintained they were unaware of any illegal activity.

WHAT'S FALSE: Bill Clinton definitively broke Massachusetts election law on 1 March 2016.

www.snopes.com...

It all hangs on one words .... "believed"

a reply to: Phage

This was reporting in The Boston Globe.

www.bostonglobe.com...

"Asked whether his presence constitutes campaigning: "He's a well known person. And he's a spouse of a candidate. That should answer the question ..." said the Sec of States office.

a reply to: burntheships

So...no.

No video, no evidence of the violation of electioneering laws.

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Gryphon66

You left out the part of Snopes that is What is True.

Mixture


WHAT'S TRUE: Bill Clinton was filmed inside a polling place in West Roxbury; Massachusetts state officials called the campaign to "remind" the Clintons of polling place laws; the state maintained they were unaware of any illegal activity.

WHAT'S FALSE: Bill Clinton definitively broke Massachusetts election law on 1 March 2016.

www.snopes.com...

It all hangs on one words .... "believed"

Actually I QUOTED "What's True."

Really, reading is fundamental.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: burntheships

No video, no evidence of the violation of electioneering laws.

There are videos, just not of that instance.

a reply to: burntheships

Evidence of illegal electioneering, please.

Plenty of IPhones. No?

originally posted by: Gryphon66


Actually I QUOTED "What's True."

You quoted part of it, yet left out the rest.

Whale watching, I suppose.

originally posted by: Phage
Plenty of IPhones. No?

So, now the law hinges on phones does it?

originally posted by: Phage
Plenty of IPhones. No?

So, now the law hinges on phones does it?

a reply to: burntheships

So, now the law hinges on phones does it?

No. Not IPhones.
Not petitions either.
Evidence.