Trump orders Secret Service to remove black students from rally

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Trespassers are required to wear identifying placards stating their intent to trespass in order to be called Trespassers? That's new.

A person is only a trespasser if that person is trespassing. That's not new.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Trespassers are required to wear identifying placards stating their intent to trespass in order to be called Trespassers? That's new.

A person is only a trespasser if that person is trespassing. That's not new.

"Standing there doing nothing" even when uninvited is still trespassing. If I go into your back yard and just stand there, I'm still a trespasser.

See what I'm trying to say here?

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

I see what you're trying to do by ignoring the facts and making silly, irrelevant analogies.

If I hold a political rally (or any other event for that matter) in my backyard and I advertise that the event is open to members of the public and then let people into said event in my backyard, I cannot then claim that these people that I've invited into my backyard for a political rally are trespassers unless I ask them to leave and they refuse or I ask them to leave and they reenter.

This isn't a complex issue.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Assuming they had tickets, which I agree they most likely did, there must have been some other reason local law enforcement (the folks who was in charge of protestors, not secret service), had for kicking them out.

Several other Valdosta students scattered in smaller groups throughout the audience inside the rally said before Trump's speech that they intended to sit in silent protest, without causing any disruption. They followed through on that. Only one person, who was white, was ejected for protesting during Trump's remarks.

Among the group of 30 to 40 asked to leave, at least one was white, and several of them committed violations that could have led to their arrest if police hadn’t shown restraint, Childress said.

“What I resent is now some of these folks are going around saying it was a black issue. That’s total nonsense,” he said. “I personally asked why were these folks told to leave and the reason was: they were being disruptive. The Trump staff said they were using profanity. The F-bomb is one word that was used. You can’t be in there using profanity. That violates Georgia law.”

Black Students Ejected from Trump Rally

It appears this particular group of protestors were being disruptive in accordance with Georgia law, while other silent protestors were left to silently protest.

a reply to: TheTory

Thanks for the link.

These folks were told to leave the PE complex by the Trump detail

That answers that question. So why is the Trump campaign saying that they had no knowledge of what their own security did I wonder? Nobody is going to call BS on that? (rhetorical question)

Assuming they had tickets, which I agree they most likely did, there must have been some other reason local law enforcement (the folks who was in charge of protestors, not secret service), had for kicking them out.

See above. Local law enforcement didn't escort them out, the Trump security staff did. Once outside, local law enforcement took over and this is where Childress is patting his officers on the back for "showing restraint."

Childress said that he was told by the Trump staff that "they were using profanity." This may or may not be the case and as it stands, it's hearsay and the fact that it's being relayed to reporters by a law enforcement official doesn't lend it any specific credibility.

originally posted by: xuenchen
Looks like yet another weak and feeble attempt to smear Trump.

Is this all they have?

No. But idiot trump supporters won't listen to all the catslogue of incidents of his. They will still blindly support him because of his meaningless and empty promise to "make America great again"

And yes...im suggesting that every trump supporter is an idiot. And im being polite.

a reply to: theantediluvian

That answers that question. So why is the Trump campaign saying that they had no knowledge of what their own security did I wonder? Nobody is going to call BS on that? (rhetorical question)

Probably a lack of communication. Though I am unsure, it is less likely that it was some racist coverup by the entire campaign.

See above. Local law enforcement didn't escort them out, the Trump security staff did. Once outside, local law enforcement took over and this is where Childress is patting his officers on the back for "showing restraint."

Childress said that he was told by the Trump staff that "they were using profanity." This may or may not be the case and as it stands, it's hearsay and the fact that it's being relayed to reporters by a law enforcement official doesn't lend it any specific credibility.

You're right. But assuming it is for racial reasons is equally as specious. In the same article there are videos that may shed more insight. Unfortunately I cannot watch them as I am at work.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Although hosted by the Trump campaign, this was a public event being held at Valdosta University's basketball stadium.

It was not invite only, anyone could have attended. It was not a private event.

The students were told the following:

"They said, this is Trump’s property; it’s a private event.' But I paid my tuition to be here.”

OBVIOUSLY, Trump does not own Valdosta University's basketball stadium, its not his property.

Nor was it a private event. The students were misinformed on both accounts.

However, the Trump campaign was either invited on campus or they paid to be there which means they were probably well within their rights to ask people to leave.

Even if it was a private event and even if it was Trump's property, that does not make what the campaign did any less racist. They racially profiled these students and assumed that they might cause a problem and pre-emptively threw them out.

Its not up for debate. Trump and Co's actions were 100% racially motivated. It doesnt matter what kind of event it was.

Source.

However, Valdosta Police Chief Brian Childress tried to clear up the confusion Tuesday morning, telling USA TODAY that he personally went to speak to the Trump campaign staff and the local law enforcement officers helping with security to confirm who ordered the students out, and to ask why.

“These folks were told to leave the PE complex by the Trump detail,” Childress said.

According to the Chief of Police, the Trump campaign was responsible for throwing out the Black students.

Trump should have simply started his rally. If the students caused a problem, the campaign would have been more than justified in throwing them out.

But Trump took the position that a bunch of Black students could not possibly be Trump supporters and could only be there to cause problems...

Any previous claims of Trump being racist were sketchy.

Not anymore.

a reply to: gladtobehere


why is it that so many more protestors show up at trump rallies than any other candidates rallies? trumps tactics of dealing with protestors is upsetting to say the least. what is it going to look like if he is elected president? will he have a goon squad of security ready to preemptively bounce anyone that might not agree with the dear leader?

Bingo.

'After we got our tickets, waited in line, went through security and walked to get our seats,' Davis continued, 'Trumps [sic] secret service came up to us and asked us to leave. Again, a group of all black students who WERE NOT there to protest, but to sit in the rally like every else, got KICKED OUT FOR NO REASON.'

www.dailymail.co.uk... ident.html

How did the students get into the event in the first place? They would have likely passed through security initially. I'm fairly certain they had the tickets to attend that event. 'Private' event is a very loose definition considering basically anybody could get tickets to attend those events, and there is nothing pointing to these students not being 'eligible' to attend initially.

The county sheriff earlier also confirmed it was Trump detail that removed the students, not the secret serviceman. There's no evidence these students were 'trespassing' or 'hijacking' this rally. There's no evidence they were being disruptive. Yet they were removed.

The 'private event' excuse does not seem to have much legs to stand on anymore. Given this was a rally appealing to the public for the coming primaries, I certainly don't buy that excuse.

originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: gladtobehere


why is it that so many more protestors show up at trump rallies than any other candidates rallies? trumps tactics of dealing with protestors is upsetting to say the least. what is it going to look like if he is elected president? will he have a goon squad of security ready to preemptively bounce anyone that might not agree with the dear leader?

It basically comes down to they know they will get air time no matter what. They think they are martyring for their candidates/political view.

a reply to: Southern Guardian

At least one of the ejected students was white, he said, and several were behaving in a way that could have gotten them arrested.

And how do we know if this group was not part of a "crash" effort?

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Southern Guardian

At least one of the ejected students was white, he said, and several were behaving in a way that could have gotten them arrested.

And how do we know if this group was not part of a "crash" effort?

There was an article a few posts above saying that there were protesters chanting black lives matter. I'm betting it was these people doing it.

a reply to: Southern Guardian

This headline should read...Liberals only notice color of people being removed from Trump rally...ignore the reason.

Hope this helps.

a reply to: Southern Guardian

Trump had four young black men sitting behind him at this same event.
This was a private event paid for Trump so he gets to decide who comes and stays.
If you interrupt the event, then you need to go.

Just watched a speech yesterday where there were like 6 Black people behind Trump.

None of THEM were kicked out.

So what gives. Trump is only 'racist' on certain days?

originally posted by: chuckk
a reply to: Southern Guardian

Trump had four young black men sitting behind him at this same event.
This was a private event paid for Trump so he gets to decide who comes and stays.
If you interrupt the event, then you need to go.

I think we're speaking of the same speech.

I guess Trump is only 'racist' to certain Black people in his audience.

Durp

originally posted by: Kester
a reply to: Southern Guardian

And this is how he treats a Scottish great grandmother. www.trippinguptrump.co.uk...

He ain't racist. Just plain nasty.

Lol..sort of, what country needs a piece of shiite like that man!

originally posted by: TheTory

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
You people are hilarious.

Why is it that I automatically dismiss any statement that includes the phrase 'you people'? The word 'troublemaker' usually roosts in that person's vocabulary as well, and is equally noxious.

Likely because you wrongfully apply it to races in your mind, and feel ashamed by it.

Nope...not in the least, but thanks for your interest.