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ism
ˈizəm/
nouninformalderogatory
noun: ism; plural noun: isms
a distinctive practice, system, or philosophy, typically a political ideology or an artistic movement.
originally posted by: Willingly
a reply to: Ghost147
Ghost147, for someone who is that much into "logic" you behave a lot like some snake that trys to escape being captured.
originally posted by: Willingly
a reply to: Ghost147
Didn't the existence of "God" depend a lot on how one defines such "God"? How can anybody claim that "God" does not exist, IF for example this "God" is defined as: The totality of existence as such.
originally posted by: Willingly
a reply to: Ghost147
Sometimes you seem as if you argue just because that is what you can do best. As if it doesn't matter what ones says, you are against it, because that's what you do, arguing against it for the sake of doing so. Could that be a possibility, Ghost? And that would indeed explain a lot. Being unable and/or unwilling to agree to disagree is just this: The stance, "I'm right and others are wrong, no matter how right they are, because I'm right only!!"
originally posted by: Willingly
a reply to: Ghost147
And by the way, what is logic anyway? Are we talking about formal logic? Psycho-logic? Personal logic? Trans-personal-logic? You tell me, Ghost, what kind of logic you are trying to prove so feverishly.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Ghost147
when an "ism is added to a word it carries with it addtonal meaning to what it is attached
I would assume that someone so interested in my 'career in debate' on ATS would have picked up on the fact that I have many times been shown to have made a false assumption, or had posted invalid information, and I immediately withdrew those statements as facts and then accepted the more valid ones that the opposition presented.
I haven't even used the word "logic" in the entire 6 pages of this topic (minus this very post). You brought it into discussion, so what do you mean by it?
originally posted by: Willingly
a reply to: Ghost147
What opposition? I'm discussing but you seem to debate. That's how it looks like to me.
originally posted by: Murgatroid
Really, Ghost, a simple note, like, "I understand what you are driving at", would have let you look like someone who can understand a statement, made to clean the air from too much ....you name it.
originally posted by: Murgatroid
From now on I consider you as being my opponent. I did not before. But thanks for reminding me that you debate only.
So, ignoring all the rest of my post which has completely disproved your concepts. Got it.
There's nothing like saying "I'm a humble person and you're not" by declaring a person a permanent opponent no matter what they say.
Way to represent going into a topic with an open mind
originally posted by: Willingly
a reply to: Ghost147
You can't properly discern a concept from a statement, that was meant to critise your style of arguing . I haven'd presented a concept in my statement! I critizised your style of arguing, Ghost.
originally posted by: Willingly
a reply to: Ghost147
Like I said before: I'm not humble. I'm not great enough to be humble. But I clearly see that you want me to be humble, so I assume I'm great. Thanks for that!
originally posted by: Willingly
a reply to: Ghost147
With an open mind like you have?
I also don't go into a topic with an OP that I regularly disagree with and immediately assume this new position of theirs must automatically relate to their previously held ones.
Ah, excellent! I'm here to learn what I believe and what I don't believe and what traits represent me from a person whom has no conclusive understanding of the term.
originally posted by: Agree2Disagree
a reply to: Ghost147
Not to say that you do this regularly, but it seems you do it on occasion...as for instance you automatically assumed my definitions in this thread would be incorrect, based on a previous discussion...
originally posted by: Agree2Disagree
a reply to: Ghost147
...I presume that some of my "accurate descriptions" took you by surprise....
originally posted by: Agree2Disagree
a reply to: Ghost147
despite there still having been an "incorrect" representation...I do hope I've shown that I understand the term and the implications to a much greater degree than many others...
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Ghost147
An Atheist practices a systematic belief that there is NO GOD.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Ghost147
So under meaning number 6 of Religion it fits them perfectly and shows that is something they practice, that is the belief there is not a God on a regular basis.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Ghost147
An Agnostic is a particular problem in that the NO knowledge they profess to practice is "of God" but is is still a regular practice of this belief that makes it a religion.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Akragon
O come now, the systematic practice of not holding belief in God is argued every day and you ask such a silly question.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Akragon
Yes, brushing one teeth could be considered a religious activity.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Akragon
That is the most basic meaning of the word religious.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Akragon
Because brushing ones teeth is done at certain times of the day on a regular basis it can be concidered religious.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Akragon
People say things like i.e. "I religiously brush my teeth", "Grandpa smoke religiously", "Rap music is his religion", "he is a religious drinker", "she exercises religiously".
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Akragon
Just about anything done or practices on a regular basis and time can be said to be a religious practice.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Akragon
Now you are catching on to what the basis of religion is a daily practice. This meaning of the word religious has been lost in modern times but should never be forgot. Many have placed the word religious as to mean church or spiritual, but it had a much more common meaning when it first was used way back in the 1500's to a regular practice of just about anything.
So when people say Atheism or Agnosticism is a religion to some people it is because it is a system practised by them on a regular basis. they do this so they wont be converted to another view of that which they oppose.
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: ChesterJohn
That is a seriously twisted way of looking at this...
So basically you're saying if i take a dump at the same time every day, its religious? LMAO!!
Have you ever looked up the definition of religion?
I really think you need to...
Atheism isn't a religion... its a non belief...
Atheists don't go around preaching that there is no God, but when some encounter people that do believe... they will protest... Its not something that can be even considered religious... IF said person never encounters believers that preach or talk about their religion, its not even a topic of discussion... especially on a regular basis
I think a lot of you Christians only use this ridiculous premise to annoy people that don't believe...
You know its nothing but nonsense, why even bother pushing something thats completely illogical?
Not believing that there is a god is a system of belief
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Ghost147
Ask any atheist if they believe there is a god.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Akragon
What is their answer?
No.
What does that logically imply?
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Akragon
That implies they don't believe there is a god.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Akragon
Not believing that there is a god is a system of belief.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Akragon
A Daily defence of this belief of there being no god is a religious practice and constitutes a religion.
Does that mean you don't believe him?
You know that means that you believe that you don't believe him? (or some twisted version of the word belief)