Migrants break down Macedonia fence on Greek border

Migrants break down Macedonia fence on Greek border

So, if this doesnt count as a flat out invasion I dont know what does.

Seige warfare is now back! It took a dark age culture to revive a dark age tactic? Thats IMHO.

Thoughts?

A section of fence was smashed open with a metal signpost. It is not clear whether any migrants got through.

Nah, it was an accident!

a reply to: Butterfinger

What can you really expect ? They don't want refuge in Greece, not that Greece can handle all the migrants anyway if even if they wanted to remain in Greece and nobody in the EU seems to want to assist Greece.

Greece should really be sending them back to Turkey and building their own walls/fences to stop this because it's getting so out of control

Can you imagine what it would be like if it all the fighting spreads further through the middle east and into the likes of Pakistan and India ?

Ive already posted underneath a reply to: Butterfinger

Yeah because they should be seeking Asylum in Greece, not in some more economically stable country. Greece should be forced to take the financial burden of supporting these people without asking for any financial assistance from the E.U. And these asylum seekers should understand that although Merkel has invited them to Germany, she's now changed her mind.

Why can't these people appreciate that Europe simply can not take anymore of their like, so stop with the wanton destruction of the fences designed to stop you from getting to Northern Europe.

Oh and by the way, what happened to the €1.5 billion given to the Turks in order to keep these people in the Refugee camps?

a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Artillery shells cost money, that 1.5billion is being spent on shelling the Kurds in Syria despite a supposed cease fire agreement and thus creating even more migrants

a reply to: Discotech

See how it all works?

Yet many are up in arms and shouting the odds.

It's all part of the master plan and when people wake up and see this, the sooner we can target the true villains in the piece.

It is an invasion it cant be seen as anything other. As I have remarked before can you imagine how easily this is going to get completely out of hand when a few more thousand arrive in the coming weeks. Only Syrians and people from Iraq are being allowed through and so they should be. Why the hell do Pakistanis, Somaluans, Afghans, Eritreans think they can just come here illegally and demand to be let through. They need to be sent straight back not allowed to congragate in Athens.

I feel sorry for Greece but for the life of me I cant understand why they dont have their Navy towing the boats back. There will be civil war soon.

The media make it worse by giving them pieces of paper demanding the doors are opened and once again filming women and children. Its not going to wash this time like last year people realise now most are men and there has been Paris and Cologne in between. People of Europe need to start protesting loud and clear because Merkel is still saying on TV today to keep them coming!a reply to: Butterfinger

a reply to: Butterfinger

Seige warfare is now back! It took a dark age culture to revive a dark age tactic? Thats IMHO.

It's only just begun.
By this time next year... if my worst concerns play out, we won't even be able to get on the web to discuss it.

Hope and pray I am wrong... every single day.

S&F

a reply to: Discotech


Ummm...

They don't want refuge in Greece

I know...right...they seem to be all heading towards the north pole...From the equator to the north pole...Wow...talk about acclimation...

Must be they all swallowed the anthropogenic global warming hockey schtick...and are desperately seeking out that last ice cube to claim it from the last polar bear...

Has Albert been over there peddling his inconvenience...?
Silly boy...




YouSir

a reply to: Discotech

www.nytimes.com...

Why would Turkey be so willing to house refugees — and to house them so well at its own expense? Unlike almost all other refugee camps in the world, Kilis is not run by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. Rather, Turkey’s Disaster and Emergency Management Presidency, or AFAD, asked the U.N.H.C.R. for its camp guidelines — minimum distance between tents, and so on — and then designed its own. It staffed the camps with Turkish government employees, allowing in few NGOs and giving those only supporting roles. Except for some relatively minor international donations, the financial responsibility, and all the administrative responsibility, has been Turkey’s alone.

This approach, while costly, has given the Turks a measure of control over every detail — including who is working in their country. Typically, camps are serviced by a number of NGOs, and there can be overlap — or gaps — in the services they provide. The agencies may fight among themselves or clash with local leaders; each has its own hierarchies and staff members, drawn from an unlimited number of nations. Running a camp that way, the Turkish government official speculated, would be complicated: “There’s too many people coming and going. It’s not secure. And it’s distracting.”

It's costing Turkey a lot to keep the camps running. And under Turkish control.

www.dailysabah.com...

During Thursday's speech, the president has also slammed the United Nations for its double standards regarding the Syrian crisis and said that it was insincere of the UN to make a call to Turkey [on opening its borders] on refugees instead of taking action in Syria.

He harshly criticized the U.N. and others for urging Turkey to open its doors to Syrians waiting at the borders.

"It is hypocritical to remind Turkey of its international responsibilities," Erdoğan said, and noted that Turkey has done more than anybody else, which can be seen by the number of refugees accepted by each country.

They're full up already.

Greece isn't a final destination, just the most vulnerable shore to land on. They aren't going to stay in a country that has no jobs and is saddled with burdensome debt.

But Turkey must be helping this along somewhat because at the end of the day they must be letting migrants in from Pakistan, Eritrea, Somalia, Afghanistan otherwise how are these people managing to get into their Country and then sail from their shores? Thats where most are coming from it said in news Greece have confirmed that only 1 in 5 are true refugees.

a reply to: Kester

a reply to: intrptr
Refuge is supposed to be about safety not where you can get the most money paid free of charge!

80% of them arent true refugees but economic migrants so are actually invading Europe illegally. They dont have any rights to have the borders opened to them and should in fact be treated as crimjnals for breaking fences etc!a reply to: intrptr

Okay.....

So let me get this right these young male refugees, migrants will fight to get into another country but they won't fight to live in their own?

a reply to: redoubt

It's only just begun. By this time next year... if my worst concerns play out, we won't even be able to get on the web to discuss it.

What do you mean by this? Internet censorship is probably the least likely thing to result from this...

a reply to: anxiouswens

True.
They have the same internet on their phones as we do and are fully aware of the situation in the EU. It seems as though they all want to try and get in before the borders are completely closed. Mrs Merkel's free for all offer has been publicised all over the world and now anyone who fancy's a shot is heading their way. There should've been some kind of controls enforced at the very start. Now that it is clear that no ones getting any checks done, its just got to be too tempting. I'm waiting for a new meme to start.
Je suis un Syrian.
Seems to be the modern alternative to a passport
They will not stop.

If we had real leaders in Europe and UK which we obviously dont (except for Hungary) then they should tell Merkel to either announce Germany will not be accepting any more migrants and close their borders OR if she wants them so desperately then Germany should just send planes to Greece and fly the migrants directly that way all the Countries in between dont have to put up with this invasion but it should be made clear if Germany want them they cannot then try and force other countries to take them when they have said all along they dont want them. Why does everyone seem too scared to deal with Merkel once and for all. She could be insane how she is acting and no one is stopping her!

a reply to: anxiouswens

We can see that it is happening, unfortunately some people can't see why.

a reply to: Butterfinger

So, if this doesnt count as a flat out invasion I dont know what does.

Nope, it doesn't. Who said quotas and walls are not inhumane?

But you're confused, always use weapons during invasions and better don't call 'em such if you can't see any.

Putting up fences was the real accident here, as if that would help. Stupid policy, all hail Victator Orban! Not.