Saul of Tarsus: False prophet

a reply to: 5StarOracle

There is no right and wrong here, sorry pal, we're talking about a long time ago, EVERYONE is working on guess work and their own bias.

Is the problem I have with religion. Unless you yourself are God and omniscient, you KNOW nothing, you only suspect and believe. Which you have no capability to do any more than me or anyone else. Therefore neither of us are right as far as we KNOW, but we both suspect we are. The church is no more God and omniscient than either of us.

Does Paul have those titles? Yes. Does he deserve them? That's completely open to interpretation, as those who believe Paul is a liar and deceiver obviously believe the church who follows his teachings are deceived and thus not following the true words of Christ in the first place. Therefore using the post deception church as proof is ridiculous.

Of coarse I knew who wrote Romans 10:2, I did it on purpose, my way of saying, well you know.......to stupidity.

a reply to: 5StarOracle

No one is trying to destroy anyone's faith. As you can see, I am not alone.

I follow Jesus teachings, you go Saul it up. Why would I care?

a reply to: Barzini

I'm not a she...
Are you a hermaphrodite?

a reply to: Puppylove

Then likewise you know nothing...

And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

That means Christ stands by his titles and that you are wrong...

a reply to: Blue_Jay33


Your not stupid, maybe you love the wide path, I take the road less traveled because that's what Jesus wants.

The corruption in the Catholic church for 2015+ years should be enough to make anyone suspicious.

The pedophile Catholic church is who is responsible for the New Testament, how much can we trust them over 2000 years?

Use common sense instead of being a follower of popular opinion, thats my advice.

You won't take it, you actually believe that the bible is perfectly preserved, perfectly translated and I know for a fact it isn't.

The virgin birth was not a Jewish prophecy and the Greek Matthew was using was mistranslated from Hebrew almah to virgin in Greek.

Almah means young girl not virgin and that wasn't a Messianic prophecy. Also Lucifer is a mistranslation, the character Isaiah was comparing whoever "Halal" was.

Halal(shining one, the king of Babylon) ben Shachar(Canaanite astromythological deity, the planet Venus) has nothing to do with Ha Satan.

Lucifer is a total figment of imagination based off sloppy translation errors.

The bible is not perfect.

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Barzini

I'm not a she...
Are you a hermaphrodite?

More harassment, from a Pauline Christian. Sorry I thought you were a girl, thats the vibe I get from you and oracles remind me of Adelphi, a woman. It wasnt intentional your just acting ******

a reply to: Barzini

So unlike you I think God is capable of protecting the one thing that can lead people to the truth of reality, why do you think the Catholics were hunting Tyndale down, when he was making up the first English bibles and trying to distribute them. You are right about false Christian dogma coming from Catholicism, there is many things they are wrong on, but it's only because they are teaching bogus stuff from the bible that it doesn't really teach or say.

The "whole" bible itself has been protected despite many attempts to stop it from being translated or being mass produced.

a reply to: Barzini

So now you are calling the Catholic Church nothing but pedophiles?
That's as sick as the individuals that are guilty of that...
There are a lot of bad things in every church...
That does not mean that all people that belong to them are guilty of thier sins...
Jesus is quoted as calling him Lucifer&Satan in the old Testament you would be correct about it being the King of Babylon his Name is Nimrod or Asshur and he is the Antichrist and after God stupefied the people and spread them across the earth he became known by many different names. OSIRUS for example for this is his body which has been discovered and who's dna has been taken and whose mortal wound shall be healed and he will walk the earth again...
But that's a different topic...

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

That isn't how it went down, capable he is, but we have free will. The truth is in there, yes, but what the churches teach is corrupt by men seeking prestige and money. And it's very corrupt, as is most English translations. Odd thing is, Catholics have the best bibles even though they are pagan too the core.

I think Saul was added in with Jesus teachings and they are very different teachings if you examine scripture.

a reply to: Barzini

No Christian religion worships multiple gods

a reply to: 5StarOracle

I get it, you love Saul.

I reject him to follow ONLY JESUS.

Do you, I'll do me and leave it at that. Also Jesus calls himself the bright and morning star (Venus symbology) not Lucifer.

a reply to: 5StarOracle

Yeah, actually Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

I believe that's 3.

a reply to: 5StarOracle

Christ was dead, the only one he supposedly talked to was Paul, he never confirmed Paul as anything to anyone but Paul. In the physical world Paul and Jesus never met, all we have is Paul's claims on Jesus and people believing him.

Jesus never met Paul, not once, not ever, except in Paul's head during his seizure... I mean "vision"

Paul, James and a bunch of others gave him those titles and made those claims. There's literally zero proof Jesus agreed with anything that happened after he left the scene.

a reply to: Barzini

How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, who laid the nations low!
Oddly enough the both have similar reference...

a reply to: Puppylove

No Jesus was alive he rose from the dead...

And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 

That's Jesus that said that...

a reply to: 5StarOracle

He rose then later ascended to heaven, ascension as good as dead where earthly vessels are involved. Neither dead nor Pre-ascension did Jesus ever meet Paul.

forget it, I misunderstood something.

a reply to: 5StarOracle

“How you are fallen from heaven, O shining one/day star, son of the morning (helel ben shachar)! You have been thrown down to the earth, you who destroyed the nations of the world.” Isaiah 14:12

The word helel literally means “light-bearer” or “shining one.” The Greek version (the Septuagint [LXX]) renders the name given to the Babylonian king as ho heosphoros ho proi anatellon. Let us contrast that with the words of the risen and glorified Christ:

“I Jesus have sent my angel to you with this testimony for the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright morning star (ho aster ho lampros ho proinos).” Revelation 22:16

Not the same words used.

a reply to: Kitana

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