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originally posted by: eletheia
'shaking my head' ....
Never ceases to amaze me what short memories people have
I urge each and everyone of you to read this links
www.jcm.org.uk...
and this
www.dailymail.co.uk...
Irelands *undemocratic* second Lisbon Treaty >>>> In other words democracy is
only democracy When you get the result you want
Vote OUT the EU is a monster that devours.
originally posted by: UKTruth
I see some more fear monger material is about to land on our doorsteps - the Govt spending £10m on sending glossy brochures to try and persuade us to vote to stay in the EU. The fact they are trying to skew the public vote by only giving one side of the story means my vote will now definitely be to EXIT. Whenever Cameron is behind something you just know you must make the opposite decision to what that criminal is pushing.
originally posted by: Flavian
originally posted by: UKTruth
I see some more fear monger material is about to land on our doorsteps - the Govt spending £10m on sending glossy brochures to try and persuade us to vote to stay in the EU. The fact they are trying to skew the public vote by only giving one side of the story means my vote will now definitely be to EXIT. Whenever Cameron is behind something you just know you must make the opposite decision to what that criminal is pushing.
I don't get the objections to this, to be honest.
The Government is supposed to be representing British interests. If they have decided that Britain should remain, it is their duty to provide the public with information on why this is the case......hence the leaflets.
Whether you agree with Brexit or Not, this is simply a government being responsible (for once, whatever the reasons) to its duties. And there is nothing stopping the Brexit camp doing the same........
originally posted by: Flavian
I don't get the objections to this, to be honest.
The Government is supposed to be representing British interests. If they have decided that Britain should remain, it is their duty to provide the public with information on why this is the case......hence the leaflets.
Whether you agree with Brexit or Not, this is simply a government being responsible (for once, whatever the reasons) to its duties. And there is nothing stopping the Brexit camp doing the same........
originally posted by: eletheia
originally posted by: Flavian
I don't get the objections to this, to be honest.
The Government is supposed to be representing British interests. If they have decided that Britain should remain, it is their duty to provide the public with information on why this is the case......hence the leaflets.
Whether you agree with Brexit or Not, this is simply a government being responsible (for once, whatever the reasons) to its duties. And there is nothing stopping the Brexit camp doing the same........
I would say being responsible would be not spending the best part of £10 million.
on glossy leaflets going through the letter box where they simply get binned as
spam.
The government has access to the BBC and could use that media at various times
to get their message over?...But I can quite see why they don't....David Cameron's
limp, unconvincing performances in front of the camera, wouldn't do the *stay*
campaign much good.
originally posted by: Flavian
No, you have it wrong there.
Parties put forward a manifesto and the public then votes on that manifesto. It is then up to the party elected to make good on their promises (or not). The people then get the chance to hold them to account at the next election time.
originally posted by: Flavian
a reply to: UKTruth
No, you have it wrong there.
Parties put forward a manifesto and the public then votes on that manifesto. It is then up to the party elected to make good on their promises (or not). The people then get the chance to hold them to account at the next election time.
Once elected, the government either has to stand by its pledges or not. It is nothing to do with reacting to populist (or not) issues. In point of fact, this is the problem with modern politics in most nations. Governments forget they are supposed to be representing their nation and instead react to every new story, therefore often contradicting themselves and not actually getting to grips with any issues because they are simply lurching from one issue to the next.
a general vote by the electorate on a single political question which has been referred to them for a direct decision.
originally posted by: Flavian
a reply to: UKTruth
Which was part of the Conservative manifesto.........
The referendum is being delivered, so the Conservatives have made good on their pledge. However, having made good on their pledge, the government position is one of support for the EU, so they are now entitled to demonstrate and explain that support, hence the leaflets.
Post election, the party and the Government are differing beasts, regardless of political affiliation. As above, the parties are there to offer what they think the voters want. If elected, the governments are their to either deliver (or not) those pledges and to be held accountable for those decisions.
Having set there stall out that staying is the best option, it would be irresponsible to not role out the machinations of state in order to make your position clear.
Where i do agree with you is that a similar amount should really be set aside for the Leave camp. That said, Lord Ashcroft could easily use some of his tax haven millions here.......
originally posted by: Morrad
I signed this petition today.
STOP CAMERON spending British taxpayers’ money on Pro-EU Referendum leaflets
Currently standing at 166,147 signatures
Government has responded (obligation to inform the public) and still waiting for debate date. Mr Cameron you have a duty to provide facts which allows the general public to make an informed choice. This is nothing more than propaganda.
originally posted by: Morrad
a reply to: UKTruth
There is a petition relating to this as well. I signed it as a symbolic gesture as I doubt it will be debated. 67000 signatures (4000 in the last hour). The government has not yet responded.
Hold a General Election in 2016
I can *sniff* a potential leadership challenge.
Maybe wishful thinking.