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originally posted by: nonspecific
It might make sense to bring in people from outside the UK and allow them to be paid less with less rights.
originally posted by: grainofsand
originally posted by: nonspecific
It might make sense to bring in people from outside the UK and allow them to be paid less with less rights.
WTF?! You are taking the piss yeah?
originally posted by: nonspecific
I meant from an economic point of view as opposed to a beneficial to the UK point.
It is cheaper for companies(or the NHS) to hire non UK citizens as they are prepared to work for less. This is good for business.
It is also good for the house rental business as most non UK residents rent and the buy to let business is booming right now and wealthy people are gaining from this.
Does it not make sense to create a situation that suits your own cause than one that benefits the nation as a whole?
originally posted by: grainofsand
originally posted by: nonspecific
I meant from an economic point of view as opposed to a beneficial to the UK point.
It is cheaper for companies(or the NHS) to hire non UK citizens as they are prepared to work for less. This is good for business.
It is also good for the house rental business as most non UK residents rent and the buy to let business is booming right now and wealthy people are gaining from this.
Does it not make sense to create a situation that suits your own cause than one that benefits the nation as a whole?
So why on Earth are you considering voting 'remain' in June?!
...and are you close to sharing a response regarding the UK not funding training of doctors, but instead choosing to drain Romania of theirs, which Romania paid to train?
I think it is disgraceful, a real scandal.
originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: nonspecific
Lame deflection about a very real EU issue.
I guess the NHS stealing trained doctors from Romania/Hungary goes against your pro EU arguments so I understand why you may not wish to address it. Lame.
*Edit*
Go on, defend that brain drain from piss poor EU countries as opposed to training our own doctors.
originally posted by: nonspecific
Deserves a debate of its own and should not be used as a brexit tool.
originally posted by: grainofsand
originally posted by: nonspecific
Deserves a debate of its own and should not be used as a brexit tool.
Why not?
The 'brain drain' from Eastern Europe is clear and documented, and solely the result of political union.
Why are you apparently running away from that valid conversation?
Deflection much?
originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: nonspecific
See my previous post edit fella, you apparently support rinsing piss poor EU nations?
I don't.
originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: nonspecific
It is absolutely an EU issue because EU membership is causing the loss of doctors to the UK from Romania.
Deny it as much you like but the problem remains.
...takes you out of your comfort zone doesn't it.
Anyone that thinks that choosing to leave the EU will resolve the issues with the NHS and our education system may be overstating the importance of the EU. Do you think a brexit will solve the issues in question then?
originally posted by: nonspecific
Forget evil eastern Europeans for a moment and tell me what nationality your last Doctor was?
Or the Doctor in the ER room you last saw?
originally posted by: grainofsand
originally posted by: nonspecific
Forget evil eastern Europeans for a moment and tell me what nationality your last Doctor was?
Or the Doctor in the ER room you last saw?
GP = Doctor Smith (English)
Maxilo Facial, Miss Frea (English)
...what point are you trying to make?
I'm saying it is wrong to steal the brightest and best from poor countries. Do you disagree?
originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: nonspecific
So do you support the UK taking the brightest and best off Hungary without paying a penny for their training or not?
originally posted by: nonspecific
originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: nonspecific
So do you support the UK taking the brightest and best off Hungary without paying a penny for their training or not?
well given that you are like a dog with a bone that will not let go then I will bite back then.
A lot of people that live in Hungary are very keen to come to the UK as they see a lot of benefit to moving to such a progressive nation.
They are keen and eager. Given that we have a large amount of socially useless teenagers and they see a gap in the market is it all that bad?
Did you not move to find a better life?
originally posted by: grainofsand
originally posted by: nonspecific
originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: nonspecific
So do you support the UK taking the brightest and best off Hungary without paying a penny for their training or not?
well given that you are like a dog with a bone that will not let go then I will bite back then.
A lot of people that live in Hungary are very keen to come to the UK as they see a lot of benefit to moving to such a progressive nation.
They are keen and eager. Given that we have a large amount of socially useless teenagers and they see a gap in the market is it all that bad?
Did you not move to find a better life?
So you support the UK taking the brightest and best off Hungary without paying a penny for their training then?
What is your answer to that simple question?
I think it is a scandal, we should use taxes to fund training of British doctors.