UK Referendum 23 June 2016 - Will it be an EU BREXIT or Not?

originally posted by: slider1982
To see the true EU and their BS scare tactics head over to YouTube and watch any number of the old news broadcasts from the BBC and ITV from the early-mid 90s about the UK not joining the Euro currency.. The scare mongering is almost laughable, I see the same tactics now as I did then...


RA

This is all the EU has to combat the disillusioned EXITING!

originally posted by: 83Liberty
a reply to: eletheia

You're quite right!

I've heard we have to pay around 20% tariffs on shoes imported from Asia for example.
I'm sure there are many other examples where we can buy cheaper goods when we don't have to adhere to the EU's protectionist trade policy.

Bingo!

**Bank of England is STILL trying to push 'project fear'**

BBC seized on the figures... but got it's facts wrong.
WARNINGS that Brexit could trigger 7,500 job losses led BBC news
bulletins yesterday morning - and were also seized on by city
lobbyists.
Readers were told that the bank of England had told lenders to prepare
for a 'no deal' Brexit, they added that the 7,500 figure was predicted by
the Bank itself.
It is understood that BBC reporters took that figure from a report published
a year ago, and then asked senior figures at the Bank of England to
say if they thought it was reasonable. That conversation is believed to have
taken place at the IMF meeting in Washington DC three weeks ago

The Bank has asked lenders to ensure they are ready for all eventualities,
but it has not put a figure on how many long term jobs may disappear.
The 7,500 figure was in a report published last October by a consultant
for TheCityUK lobby group.
Spinners went into overdrive after the BBC report using the suggestion that
the Bank itself was predicting the 7,500 job losses to bolster their argument
that highly paid finianciers must get special support.
Chief Executive Miles Celic said "this is another reminder that a no deal Brexit
will not be good for the industry, for customers or the economies of the UK and
the EU.

MEANWHILE ....

World Bank says we're better than Germany AND France for business

Britain is one of the best countries in the world in which to do business
according to a report by a leading global watchdog.
The UK was ranked seventh in the *World Bank's Doing Business* report
leaving EU rivals including Germany and France trailing in its wake. The
findings underlined just how difficult it will be for countries in the EU to
poach business from Britain after Brexit.

German and French politicians in particular have sought to tempt
businesses to relocate from the UK to cities including Frankfurt, Berlin and
Paris. In a desperate bid to attract bankers based in London , France has an
advertising campaign withthe slogan "Tired of the fog? Try the frogs"
Denmark was the only EU country ranked higher than Britain in the
report.

How Britain PLC outranks most of the world
# 1 New Zealand
# 2 Singapore
# 3 Denmark
# 4 South Korea
# 5 Hong Kong
# 6 USA
# 7 UK
# 8 Norway
# 9 Georgia
# 10 Sweeden
# 17 Ireland
# 20 Germany
# 28 Spain
# 31 France
# 34 Japan
# 35 Russia
# 41 Rwanda
# 46 Italy

The rankings are based on a range of factors including how easy it is to
start a business, secure funding access electricity and deal with construction
rules.
The World Bank also praised the low level of tax faced by small businesses in
Britain - something that could be reversed by Jeremy Corbyn who has pledged
to raise corporation tax IF labour wins power.
The UK's position was unchanged on last year, and makes a mockery of claims
the Brexit vote represented a turn inwards, towards more protectionist
policies.

The acting director of the global indicators group at the World Bank said,
"The UK is a good place to do business, because it is simple and very
affordable to start a new business, the tax burden on small and medium
businesses is low and very easy to comply with. The process of exporting and
importing is straightforward, and commercial courts are very efficient."

John Longworth the former head of the British Chambers of Commerce
said "The World Bank has once again placed Britain high on the list of best
places to do business.
With the freedoms that Brexit will bring there is no reason why the
UK cannot be the number one place in the world."

*Brexit* sounds good .... very good to me

originally posted by: eletheia


**Bank of England is STILL trying to push 'project fear'**

BBC seized on the figures... but got it's facts wrong.
WARNINGS that Brexit could trigger 7,500 job losses led BBC news
bulletins yesterday morning - and were also seized on by city
lobbyists.
Readers were told that the bank of England had told lenders to prepare
for a 'no deal' Brexit, they added that the 7,500 figure was predicted by
the Bank itself.
It is understood that BBC reporters took that figure from a report published
a year ago, and then asked senior figures at the Bank of England to
say if they thought it was reasonable. That conversation is believed to have
taken place at the IMF meeting in Washington DC three weeks ago

The Bank has asked lenders to ensure they are ready for all eventualities,
but it has not put a figure on how many long term jobs may disappear.
The 7,500 figure was in a report published last October by a consultant
for TheCityUK lobby group.
Spinners went into overdrive after the BBC report using the suggestion that
the Bank itself was predicting the 7,500 job losses to bolster their argument
that highly paid finianciers must get special support.
Chief Executive Miles Celic said "this is another reminder that a no deal Brexit
will not be good for the industry, for customers or the economies of the UK and
the EU.

MEANWHILE ....

World Bank says we're better than Germany AND France for business

Britain is one of the best countries in the world in which to do business
according to a report by a leading global watchdog.
The UK was ranked seventh in the *World Bank's Doing Business* report
leaving EU rivals including Germany and France trailing in its wake. The
findings underlined just how difficult it will be for countries in the EU to
poach business from Britain after Brexit.

German and French politicians in particular have sought to tempt
businesses to relocate from the UK to cities including Frankfurt, Berlin and
Paris. In a desperate bid to attract bankers based in London , France has an
advertising campaign withthe slogan "Tired of the fog? Try the frogs"
Denmark was the only EU country ranked higher than Britain in the
report.

How Britain PLC outranks most of the world
# 1 New Zealand
# 2 Singapore
# 3 Denmark
# 4 South Korea
# 5 Hong Kong
# 6 USA
# 7 UK
# 8 Norway
# 9 Georgia
# 10 Sweeden
# 17 Ireland
# 20 Germany
# 28 Spain
# 31 France
# 34 Japan
# 35 Russia
# 41 Rwanda
# 46 Italy

The rankings are based on a range of factors including how easy it is to
start a business, secure funding access electricity and deal with construction
rules.
The World Bank also praised the low level of tax faced by small businesses in
Britain - something that could be reversed by Jeremy Corbyn who has pledged
to raise corporation tax IF labour wins power.
The UK's position was unchanged on last year, and makes a mockery of claims
the Brexit vote represented a turn inwards, towards more protectionist
policies.

The acting director of the global indicators group at the World Bank said,
"The UK is a good place to do business, because it is simple and very
affordable to start a new business, the tax burden on small and medium
businesses is low and very easy to comply with. The process of exporting and
importing is straightforward, and commercial courts are very efficient."

John Longworth the former head of the British Chambers of Commerce
said "The World Bank has once again placed Britain high on the list of best
places to do business.
With the freedoms that Brexit will bring there is no reason why the
UK cannot be the number one place in the world."

*Brexit* sounds good .... very good to me

I will 2nd that!! Too much BS going around. 58 so called reports about how bad BREXIT will be. Desperation from REMAINERS etc!

Not on your Nelly. Can you image what would happen?


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Did you know this coming Monday (13th Nov), that the UK might be signing up to the EU army!

I never heard about this in any media but I've been reliably informed that the meeting/discussions are taking place this Monday and we could sign up to this.

This is the kind of thing why I wanted to leave the EU. It seems they do all these dodgy deals behind closed door, where we can't vote on any of it, let alone be informed about it.

I should have more info on Monday and will let you know the outcome.

originally posted by: 83Liberty
Did you know this coming Monday (13th Nov), that the UK might be signing up to the EU army!

I never heard about this in any media but I've been reliably informed that the meeting/discussions are taking place this Monday and we could sign up to this.

I have come across rumblings to that effect. But as article 50 was invoked on

29th March 2017 that it was our intention to leave the EU and it is due to be

finalised on 29th March 2019, I fail to see how we can legally sign up to anything

to do with the EU as we are in the process of leaving

This is the kind of thing why I wanted to leave the EU. It seems they do all these dodgy deals behind closed door, where we can't vote on any of it, let alone be informed about it.

Me too

The EU is showing its true colours on a daily basis. My only concern is

I do hope Teresa May has the grit and backbone to ignore all the negativaties

being thrown her way and take us out ..... without a deal if needs be.

The sabre-rattling of Barnier et al seems to be un-nerving her

a reply to: eletheia
I've actually found it on the EU website...
www.consilium.europa.eu...

Over lunch, foreign ministers and defence ministers will exchange views on security and defence in the context of the implementation of the EU Global Strategy. The Council will adopt conclusions on security and defence.

There is a lot more info on the website, such as...

The Lisbon Treaty provides that a group of member states can strengthen their cooperation in defence matters by setting up a permanent structured cooperation (PESCO). On 22 June 2017, EU leaders agreed to launch a permanent structured cooperation in order to strengthen Europe's security and defence. Member states will agree on a common list of criteria and commitments, together with concrete capability projects, in order to start this cooperation.

originally posted by: 83Liberty
Did you know this coming Monday (13th Nov), that the UK might be signing up to the EU army!

I never heard about this in any media but I've been reliably informed that the meeting/discussions are taking place this Monday and we could sign up to this.

This is the kind of thing why I wanted to leave the EU. It seems they do all these dodgy deals behind closed door, where we can't vote on any of it, let alone be informed about it.

I should have more info on Monday and will let you know the outcome.

The British people don't know half of whats going on behind closed doors in Brussels or what they are getting. It's not a democracy when a non-elected group of EU commissioner's are making the rules. The EU projects policies are not founded on or governed by citizen driven democratic vote! You join the club then the people discover the policies and impacts some time later, if you are lucky. And get financially screwed in the bargain! Enough and bye bye to the failed EU club.

Only after we have left the EU will the economic truth be evident and better for the UK. Mark my words!

Spoiler alert.....


Theresa May faces defeat by MPs demanding vote on final Brexit deal

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I have said this all along......

A free-trading Britain can prosper after Brexit

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I'm beginning to question if I did the right thing in voting Leave.

We should never have joined the damned thing in the first place, but having been members for 40 odd years...

Gonna be a bumpy old ride.

originally posted by: CJCrawley
I'm beginning to question if I did the right thing in voting Leave.

We should never have joined the damned thing in the first place, but having been members for 40 odd years...

Gonna be a bumpy old ride.

Yes you did! And yes you are right we should never have joined but that should tell you why we need to escape the shackles of the EU club.

We will continue to trade with the EU and supply our products and services to the EU and EU companies because no company or board with any sense would mess with its supply chain and will want to keep the same quality and reliability of long term supply relationship. It would be putting their businesses at risk. Better the devil you know and happy with than to change good for possibly poorer.

We will save a lot of money and will increase our trading partners significantly post BREXIT.

We will be self determining.

Don't be swayed by the BS. The EU need us far more than we need them. They are just trying to screw us for as much as they can because we are leaving!

I am confident that we will do better outside the EU club.

I also expect exchange rate to return to pre-referedum rates!!

a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

I hope you're right.

My concern is a selfish one.

It's just under 10 years till I retire and I fear raging inflation, higher rents etc.

I'm just about keeping it together, the last thing I need is for the economy to go into free fall.

I know things will settle down in time...but time is of the essence for me.

I'm pleased to announce that we, along with Ireland, Denmark and Malta, didn't sign up to the EU army today.

originally posted by: 83Liberty
I'm pleased to announce that we, along with Ireland, Denmark and Malta, didn't sign up to the EU army today.

That's a start. Hooray!

originally posted by: CJCrawley
a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

I hope you're right.

My concern is a selfish one.

It's just under 10 years till I retire and I fear raging inflation, higher rents etc.

I'm just about keeping it together, the last thing I need is for the economy to go into free fall.

I know things will settle down in time...but time is of the essence for me.

An economic down turn was for seen before the referendum. One of the issues is the debt mountain.

So what happens if there is no deal? Or we are unable to get a good deal and like TM says "no deal is better than a bad deal"

Parliament to have final say on Brexit deal, David Davis announces

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BBC now pushing that Russia fixed the Brexit vote - this is a going to be a media campaign to get a second referendum.