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originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: UKTruth
Most of that could never happen.
Most of us see the benefits of a Free Trade Association, that would mean no tariffs etc.
If Scotland was part of the EU we could not impose tariffs on Scottish goods and not on other EU produced goods.
Would you want to deport Scots who live here?
I certainly wouldn't - most love it here and have made their lives here working and paying taxes and contributing to society.
Why would we want them to go?
If an independent Scotland remained in the EU then you can bet every single penny you've ever had and ever will that one of the many conditions would be the use of the Euro as its currency.
And I'm a firm supporter of devolved power to ALL the regions of the UK - that is one of the most significant ways the UK is moving away from the EU.
The UK is heading towards increased devolved power - the EU is moving towards less and less power being with the elected assemblies of its constituent nations and more and more power being given to the EU Commission and Parliament.
That's why it baffles me why someone who supports national independence can also support membership of the EU that is actively seeking to suppress nationhood.
originally posted by: Freeborn
The thing is;
The world doesn't revolve around Scotland.
The EU doesn't revolve around Scotland.
And the UK sure as hell doesn't revolve around Scotland.
If Scotland wants to go it alone and get swallowed up and become some forgotten, insignificant hinterland in the EU then that's fine, but don't think for one minute it'll be on your terms.
Sturgeon wants Scotland to have its own independence, remain in the EU, keep Sterling and The Queen and have open borders with rUK.
Basically she wants the best of everything - that will never, ever happen and anyone who believes such nonsense is as much a crank as she is.
originally posted by: TheShippingForecast
a reply to: UKTruth
That's just a scorched earth policy. It's bitter & twisted.
I can't recall any Scot on here (or elsewhere) advocating such an outcome for England, in the event of Scottish independence, no Scot is calling on the EU to punish England in such a way for voting to leave, for example. Sure, many Scots have a certain distaste for the Home Counties types, many English do too ! But they also have enormous affinity with the North of England, with the West Country, the Midlands ... anywhere apart from the metropolitan south east.
Where on earth do your views come from ? What hurt have you ever been caused that's resulted in so bizarre an outlook on life that you'd punish people simply for trying to determine their own future ? Have you ever considered that it's such views which contribute to the break up of the UK, pushing people away ? Do you not have any goodness in your heart to simply wish the Scots the best, wherever history might take them ?
originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite
The EU don't want Scotland without rest of UK so NS's plan has back fired has it not!
originally posted by: bigyin
Why you all talking about Scotland?
Thought you didn't want to hear about Scotland.
Thought you were all sick of hearing about Scotland.
It was something I heard on the news. Someone in the EU said that the EU wouldn't want Scotland without the rest of the UK. APols for not putting up a source.
originally posted by: bigyin
originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite
The EU don't want Scotland without rest of UK so NS's plan has back fired has it not!
Have you got a reference for that because I haven't heard it from anywhere else ?