The real reason why they built the pyramids

originally posted by: Kantjil
Could you use sirius as a sufficient Calendar?

Yes. It rises on the same date each year.

They didn't have much astronomy back then, though they did use celestial events to determine festivals and so forth. Beyond that, though, their astronomy wasn't as well developed as the Babylonians. The Greeks (Temple of Dendera, 300 BC - which was 2,000 years after the Great pyramid) brought greatly improved astronomy when they conquered Egypt.

originally posted by: NarcolepticBuddha
a reply to: LittleByLittle

I am inclined to agree with this theory. Maybe their purpose fulfilled other reasons too; but they are resonators nonetheless.

If you accept this, then you already understand what function a giant resonator would mean to a culture of mystical belief. However, I suspect they were intended for multiple uses in addition to this.

Thanks for posting the neat vids

Everything does practically resonate... If they were built for that purpose... to resonate for what purpose? Maybe they are just status symbols.. Something like... Look how much power and money I have.

But I must admit, it does not make any sense that such a genious work of construction shows no clue..... at all... and not just one pyramid...but all of them.

It is as if it must have been so very normal to have them around and built them that nobody ever expected that a civillisation thousends of years later is breaking its brain over them.

a reply to: zatara

There is this that is, it is what it is, all corpses are for the observer, one with many, many with all,
i am the corpse inside the pyramid.

I like the grain silo idea, but from what i have read, the buildings contained a spectacular amount of papyri before the great burning, and what is more valuable than anything else? Knowledge.

a reply to: Byrd

Yeah, that is true. My husband, who grew up on a wheat farm agrees with that too. I can't understand masses of people working so hard to build monuments. I suppose for food, shelter and religion they would. Ha,ha, nothing has changed.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: Kantjil
a reply to: Byrd

And those chambers without tourists should keep it cold and dry for storage..

They're awfully good for bats.

Storage of what, though?

All the chambers in the pyramid of Khufu could fit inside my house - the King'c chamber is just over 1,000 cubic feet (10x10x10, in other words). The other chambers are smaller. The ascending/descending passageways are small (about 1 meter tall... you have to crouch when traveling them) and the stone slopes there do not show the mark of lots of things (or people) traveling them regularly.

I can say from personal experience that it would be very difficult to haul any amount of weight up through those corridors.

It really is a place for putting something in... and then sealing it up and leaving it.

Think that was the whole idea, make it difficult to transport/steal.. Pretty sure they had Child labour, and its grain..
But that explains the whole worship over Sirius and their calender, when the Deity died, you shut it down, make people believe he travelled to Sirius.. Built a new granary, you could probably have a religious working society until a timeline, or a heritage died out..
Foursided pyramid, ( sry, five if you are a Mason in the Cthulu club ) which should pinpoint equinoxes and solstices..
So its an astronomy chart, or a zodiac chart..
They had hemp, so hemp bags.. could be used.. Grain.. Granary... storage..

So lets do the fantasy; Alien knowledge !!

The Gypsies were Egyptian priests...

a reply to: solve

Could you in theory, well not theory, but can you make a Bag out of papyrus? anyone???

originally posted by: Kantjil
Could you in theory, well not theory, but can you make a Bag out of papyrus? anyone???

Yes.

Typically, a bag made from papyrus would be woven though, not stripped and pressed like the paper.

So i looked up, papyrus which was apprently lots of in the Pyramids, you made papyrus boats, buring that era, and Papyrus bowls, so there was a practical element to it..

a reply to: peck420

Any example? cant find one

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: Byrd

Yeah, that is true. My husband, who grew up on a wheat farm agrees with that too. I can't understand masses of people working so hard to build monuments. I suppose for food, shelter and religion they would. Ha,ha, nothing has changed.

Actually, it was for a good cause.

Pharaohs (long before the time of Khufu) owned most of the land in Egypt - but the land didn't produce unless they took care of the people. Although money hadn't been invented, goods were exchanged (pottery, clothing, linen, fine cotton, food.) A system was set up where everyone (and I mean everyone) served in the temples for a few days each year. The temples were supported by the king's estates and food and clothing and so forth were sent to them after taxes had been collected.

The Flood was welcomed, but it could be a season of hardship since nobody could plant, hunting was rather iffy, fishing could be iffy, and travel on the flood of the Nile could be risky.

Pharaohs commissioned large public works projects - stone buildings such as temples and tombs - as work projects for the Flood Season. The people who worked on these were not subject to the restricted diet and "payment" from the local temples. Instead, they received food (occasionally even beef, which was mostly reserved for the nobles), clothing, a place to sleep, and possibly even a tomb when they died (unlike at home, where they might be buried on the edge of the desert in a pit grave.) A talented stonecutter or artist from a backwater village could find a mentor from the king's select artists and stoneworkers -- if they were good enough, they could be invited to a royal city and become part of a royal workshop.

Labor was "corvee labor" - the overseers went around to the villages and ordered people to come. Most did, some ran away. If the overseers had been particularly harsh (they weren't... there were laws in Egypt about this) then the villagers would have deserted and nobody would have worked (there are a few recorded worker strikes in ancient Egypt, by the way.)

These royal projects were monuments that the people took pride in, even if they didn't use them. And it was a good way of redistributing the wealth back into the hands of the laborers. Egyptian kings weren't as harsh or cruel to the peasants as later European kings were.
Wikipedia on Corvee (including Egyptian)

another source

originally posted by: Kantjil
Think that was the whole idea, make it difficult to transport/steal.

Make what difficult to transport or steal? Certainly not grain.

Pretty sure they had Child labour, and its grain..

Yes and no. Almost no one was educated, so everyone worked the fields as soon as they were able.

But that explains the whole worship over Sirius and their calender,

Sirius (Sopdet) was a minor deity.

when the Deity died, you shut it down, make people believe he travelled to Sirius.. Built a new granary, you could probably have a religious working society until a timeline, or a heritage died out..

...spend 20 years to build a grain "silo" that held only enough grain to feed 10,000 people for only one day?

When they had temple storehouses with grain that could feed the whole land for months?

Also, I have no idea why you think the king's soul traveled to Sirius. They believed that he (the Horus) flew to the Western Horizon and became an Osiris (king of the dead) and lived among the Imperishable Stars (circumpolar stars.)

Foursided pyramid, ( sry, five if you are a Mason in the Cthulu club ) which should pinpoint equinoxes and solstices..

...except it doesn't.

So its an astronomy chart, or a zodiac chart..

A really bad one?

They had hemp, so hemp bags.. could be used.. Grain.. Granary... storage..

They used pottery jars. Really.

So lets do the fantasy; Alien knowledge !!

The Gypsies were Egyptian priests...

Couldn't we just look at what the artifacts are and what the Egyptians and others wrote about themselves directly and the skeletons and mummies instead of making it up?

originally posted by: Kantjil
So i looked up, papyrus which was apprently lots of in the Pyramids,

No, there wasn't.

you made papyrus boats, buring that era,

Out of bunches of papyrus reeds tied together. Not woven, not pounded into paper.

and Papyrus bowls, so there was a practical element to it..

The "papyrus bowls" are painted pottery bowls. From the plant, they made reed boats, mats, rope, sandals, and baskets.
see Wikipedia

a reply to: Byrd

a reply to: Byrd

I love history, thanks for that. It sounds like they had a good system between the governing body and the people. It is a history of what a happy group of humans can do.

a reply to: Byrd

So the image i posted, you care to elaborate? I could probably give you a few more..

a reply to: MOMof3

When i visit the zoo, the animals seem happy when they are well feed ..

I believe they had a system that worked for the better of society, human nature most likely f***** it up as usuall..

a reply to: Byrd

I forgot the, N,W,E,S on all the sides..but i know you understand

a reply to: Byrd

So they still worshiped the five visible bodies like all the cultures did?

originally posted by: Kantjil
a reply to: Byrd

I see that (at least according to that graphic) that the corners are aligned with the Sun on the dates of the June and December solstice, but what about the other sun positions shown? They don't seem to relate to anything on the pyramid in that graphic.

Also, what is the significance of "7-7:30 PM" on June 21 and "4:30 - 5 PM" on December 21? I understand that those two dates are the solstice dates, but why those times? I mean, you can pick many different pairs of dates and times that the Sun would align corner to corner like that -- dates that do not mark the solstice. It's not as if the Sun was rising and setting in those directions on those dates, because the corners of the pyramids are "pointing" to the NE, NW, SE, and SW -- not towards (for example) the setting sun on June 21...

...And the Sun certainly is not on opposite sides of the pyramid at 7-7:30 PM on June 21 compared to 4:30 - 5 PM on December 21. Those are both late afternoon/early evening times, and the Sun would be generally on the same side of the pyramids at those specific times, not opposite corners.

Can you please provide a source for that image so I can better understand what the alleged significance is of the alignment shown in that graphic?

EDIT TO ADD:
Ahh! Wait. I think I see the issue. I think the corner in that graphic listing the date "7-7:30 PM on June 21" should read "7-7:30 AM on June 21". That may make a little more sense. But still, post the source for this graphic so I can read what the author thinks it means.

originally posted by: Kantjil
a reply to: Byrd

Exactly. It doesn't mark the position of the sun on the important festival dates or anything else.

Also, you might want to recheck the source of the graphic, since the Great Pyramid and others on Giza are only 6 minutes off true north. The angles there are really wrong.