Evidence In Support of the Contrail explanation

It has often been said by chemtrail believers that the very notion that aircraft will leave visible contrails in wet and cold conditions is ludicrous.
It is the belief that this cannot happen and that these trails certainly don't ever persist in the sky by themselves that allowed the chemtrail meme to take hold in the first place. Here is a small selection of images that helps to illustrate the mechanics of why contrails form. The obvious question being, if the explanation for contrails stands up, why do we think chemtrails are real again?

Firstly, whilst waiting for the departure of a rare visitor to my local airport, on an incredibly cold day this week, there was a sudden blizzard that delayed the departure, creating conditions of extreme wet and cold at ground level.

when this finally subsided the Emirates 777F was finally able to depart, throwing up spray from the wet runway and creating jet engine contrails and aerodynamic ones at the same time, quite spectacular to see

And just to show that this was not all just ground spray, here is the aircraft immediately after lift off (gear still extended) quite clearly contrailing in the cold, wet conditions.

This is merely one brick in the wall of evidence (not proof) that is out there before any of the more myopic members start asking "so how does this prove....(add irrelevant assertion).

Now, I rather obviously wanted to show off these interesting pictures, but I was also reminded immediately about the times i wanted to post images that showed how contrails can form anywhere the conditions exist for them, but didn't have any. Now i do. Please read and comprehend, and take your own research forward with an open mind.

That's pretty cool Waynos (no pun intented). Thanks for posting,

Reminded me of the videos of the planes talking off in the Antarctic. They also left contrails at ground level if I'm not mistaken.

a reply to: 3danimator2014

Yes, thats what it reminded me of, except this was Doncaster, not the Arctic! Brrrr

a reply to: waynos

But i think regular contrails are still considered as geoengineering or climate engineering, as they block light and such.

a reply to: waynos

Doncaster? Wow, that must have been exceptionally cold then.

originally posted by: solve
a reply to: waynos

But i think regular contrails are still considered as geoengineering or climate engineering, as they block light and such.

The term ego engineering would denote something done on purpose rather than an unwanted by product. No?

Evidence in Support of the Contrail Conspiracy

Fixed it for you.

a reply to: 3danimator2014

Unwanted by product? ..
Are you sure about that...

Just like fracking, it could never cause earthquakes or anything like that..

a reply to: waynos

We're not claiming every contrail is a chemtrail.

Just some.

The impossibly thick dense ones that spread out into a persistent miles-wide haze.

Yes, I'm pretty sure that contrails are an unwanted product. If we could find a way of not creating them so skies remained clear, I'm sure we go down that route.

Sorry, not buying this stupid conspiracy at all.

originally posted by: Urantia1111
a reply to: waynos

The impossibly thick dense ones that spread out into a persistent miles-wide haze.

You mean like clouds do?

They would still be contrails.

a reply to: TerryDon79

No they wouldn't.

Those are chemtrails.

originally posted by: Urantia1111
a reply to: waynos

We're not claiming every contrail is a chemtrail.

Just some.

The impossibly thick dense ones that spread out into a persistent miles-wide haze.

You mean the ones that no existing aircraft could ever create by spraying since they could never carry a fraction of the amounts needed for such long contrails?

Sorry, I know you guys like to gloss over "minor" facts like that.

originally posted by: Urantia1111
a reply to: TerryDon79

No they wouldn't.

Those are chemtrails.

Sure they are..till you can show me how a plane can carry all that,I ain't buying it.

a reply to: 3danimator2014

You mean an alternative to fossil fuels?

Yeah, that would be the day..

originally posted by: Urantia1111
a reply to: TerryDon79

No they wouldn't.

Those are chemtrails.

Where exactly would these chemicals be stored?

What is the reason they are spraying?

If they were spraying the population to kill/drug/whatever then surely the "bosses" would be exposed too?

If it's to thin the numbers, they failed as the population is still growing.

a reply to: waynos

I think you nailed it there, Huagggh-spit-ding!

a reply to: solve

Hybrid electric aircraft

Propulsive Fuselage hybrid electric aircraft

Biofuel

Passenger flights with biofuel

They're getting there. It's not something you can do overnight.

a reply to: Urantia1111

This isn't aimed at everyone. I know there are many informed people on here. But in terms of "impossibly thick" contrails spreading out into cloud cover (over the whole sky, covering hundreds of square miles) please take a look at the plume behind the aircraft in the middle picture and imagine an aircraft spraying that out (it's only a hundred feet wide). How long before that plane is empty? What about the fuel and payload? The whole sky?

originally posted by: 3danimator2014
a reply to: waynos

Doncaster? Wow, that must have been exceptionally cold then.

You had to be there. Lol.