How Corporate Lobbyists Conquered American Democracy

a reply to: jacobe001Which Satanists? The Rothschilds?

originally posted by: Murgatroid
Whenever that term "Corporate Lobbyists" is used, it ought to raise a huge red flag...

The term is being used here merely as a decoy to throw the hounds off the scent.

In order to understand who the REAL conquerors are here, one must look to the owners of the press who published this article.

The Chairman of Atlantic Media is a member of both the CFR and the Trilateral commission.

Interesting if true.
But my post only included one paragraph from that article.
The rest is well known knowledge I have picked up along the way.

So if you are saying the poor lobbyists got suckered along, I have little sympathy to give after all the damage that has been done by them.

If we boot the lobbyists out to pre 1970 levels then it is still a win for Americans and a loss for the globalists

a reply to: Murgatroid


Now we are getting back to the good ole' conspiracy theories! Bravo!

a reply to: jacobe001

True, but if they are lying to us about this, what ELSE are they lying to us about?

I no longer trust anything coming from the MSM.

originally posted by: Murgatroid
a reply to: jacobe001

True, but if they are lying to us about this, what ELSE are they lying to us about?

I no longer trust anything coming from the MSM.

Washington DC is full of Corporate Insiders, so no matter who we put in will not be able to get anything done.
One thing is for sure, A corporate backed establishment puppet is more of the same.

These are all the establishment puppets put before us

CRUZ
RUBIO
BUSH
CLINTON
KASICH

These are the "outsiders"

Trump
Sanders

So, if any of the bottom two get in, nothing will change either because DC is full of corporate insiders and lobbyists on the outside that will fight to maintain their influence

a reply to: NewzNose

Will you say something and cut the nonsense?

a reply to: jacobe001

Yes I agree with you on that...

The thing that saddens me the most is that even if one of the good guys were to get elected, he would not likely not live long enough to do much good.

I read somewhere yesterday that US Presidents have been targeted for assassination more than 20 times in history.

There's only been 44 for crying out loud!

I mean obviously we have a very serious problem when EVERY person who has the ability to change the world is murdered.

originally posted by: jacobe001


We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. … It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.

Give the guy credit. At least he knew to separate the world bankers from the intellectual elite. Maybe the banks have them by the balls too.

Thanks, great reminder and info for a thread. Sadly too many people are rushing to the side that Socialism will cure everything when we haven't even experienced real Capitalism. Under the same controlling elite socialism won't get far. Not to mention, isn't Sweden supposed to collapse in the coming years due to the migrant influx?

a reply to: jacobe001

Not just the TPP but nearly every major bill entering the halls of Congress is Corporate backed or written. "Obamacare" was a huge kickback to corporate interest -- but sold as "for the People"...along with the Patriot Act.

originally posted by: jacobe001
www.theatlantic.com...


What we have in this country is Corporate Fascism.

You may be correct in saying you have Corporate Fascism but what do have more than anything else is tyranny. Does it matter which gun it comes out of?

Tyranny is tyranny why not call a spade a spade?

a reply to: ExNihiloRed

Okay. There's lots of different types of businesses including huge national and international corporations, established by a law created by man, that are wreaking havoc because man's laws have given them too much power and influence.

My point still stands. We made the rules, we can change the rules.

a reply to: jacobe001

Are you really surprised.

The " Founding Fathers " of The U.S. where in the main businessmen. The break from the U.K at that time was all down to business interests. It was only ever going to go one way.

a reply to: onequestion

You've already decided what I haven't yet said is nonsense, so why bother?

I am one of those people who have a vast circle of influence and none of them order me about as you just attempted to.

a reply to: jacobe001

I was in the work force from 1966 til 2007. This is just how I remember it going down. Thank for this in depth study.

a reply to: alldaylong

True, but they were patriots also. They loved the new world. The american wealthy wanted all to prosper, even slaves in their warped way of thinking. In Europe, the wealthy were like we have now. They have raised the bar of more and more to satisfy the debt holders that it strangling the lower rungs into hunger and poisoned drinking waters.

Part of me thinks it was a mistake to directly elect senators. If the constitution was not amended and each state was responsible for their own senators. It's a lot harder to bribe every state rep then the 100 people in he senate. The states also might make the senate do something if the senators want to keep their jobs.

originally posted by: onequestion
Will you say something and cut the nonsense?

The question has already been answered on page 1.

That answer was largely ignored BTW so I really can't blame NewzNose.

One of the greatest mysteries to me is why many times that lies AKA media, news, and history appear to be far more popular than the truth.

originally posted by: Murgatroid
One of the greatest mysteries to me is why many times that lies AKA media, news, and history appear to be far more popular than the truth.

Because people fell for the idea that "conspiracy theorists" are loonies.

How Corporate Lobbyists Conquered American Democracy

'Corporate' lobbyists eh.

When we have TWO sides that lobby the people to vote for them.

When we have the people themselves lobbying those people that we vote for, and willingly give billions to two.

I say someone is ignoring the elephant in the room.

If a person has a problem with capitol hill ?

Look in the mirror.