Donald Trump Floats Idea of a Third-Party Run Again (ABC News)

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Gryphon66

If the RNC allows Trump to run as a 3rd party candidate, then that will just cement the concept that there is no difference between the democrats and republicans.

I personally think that they (RNC) will allow trump to leave because the establishment must be maintained above all else.

Of course, that is only my "opinion".

Your opinion in this regard is as spot on as anyone's

I think this Election is going to be game-changing ... however it turns out.

The RNC is reneging on it's agreement, it's stated RULES.

It's stacking their favored candidates against Trump and actively engaging against him at multiple levels.

They've gone back on their own 'deal'.

So no deal.

I have heard more than one Dem I know state that they would vote for Trump before Hillary. Not me, but I have heard others say it. I would be forced to abstain.... again.

I just love Trump how is destroying the GOP. Exposing them for what they are.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Gryphon66

If he runs third party, he hands the election over to who ever wins the DNC nomination.

But do agree that some one running outside of the GOP and DNC is a good thing. He won't be the first but I think the most popular in a while.

I wouldn't bank on it. A lot of independents and left leaning democrats do NOT like Clinton and would vote for a Bloomberg or Trump instead. Hell, they might even catch on to Jill Stein and throw their support behind her.

I think if Trump really wants a fair shot without the establishment screwing around with him and basically rigging the vote against him he'll have to run outside the RNC. They will not give him a chance I think that is pretty clear.

I don't support him and I think the people he has speaking for him just get crazier with every new spokesperson he gets. But I will give him credit for sticking up for the people that got the shaft the other day when their plant moved to Mexico. He said he would have taxed the hell out of that company for doing that and destroying the lives of those people. Whether or not he meant it, I don't know but he seemed honestly concerned. So I'll give him credit there.

originally posted by: Sremmos80

If he runs third party, he hands the election over to who ever wins the DNC nomination.

Ordinarily I would agree with you, but Trump does have a Trump card. All he needs to do is meet with Ron Paul, embrace a bunch of Ron Paul's positions on items that don't matter to Trump and name Ron Paul as his running mate. Heck, Trump could go around picking and choosing politicians and non-politicians for his cabinet and have them out campaigning on particular issues an plans. Republicans and Democrats don't do that, and it would be a novel tactic that could be very helpful.

I know that to conventional wisdom this all sounds ludicrous. But when we live in "interesting times", I would not be surprised if the Donald decided to make a move in that direction. One thing is certain: Trump is as anti-Bush Dynasty as Ron Paul is ... and that makes for some interesting possibilities.

a reply to: Kapriti

You think Ron Paul would join with Trump??? I have a hard time believing that would ever happen.

I think your theory about it being great for him and his campaign is correct. It would do wonders for him and gain him many votes. But I just don't see the two of them together.

Trump, if he's not courting the GOP base, is free to move toward Center, to embrace Libertarians, heck, I imagine that his official "rogue" status would even let him cobble in a few planks to the platform that are sheerly Liberal.

That's the GREAT THING about an Independent run ... you can say what you think, and you don't have to kow-tow to preconceived notions or policy positions.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Trump is doing what he knows best, making deals. At the end of this primary, no republican will dare speak out against him, the media will be terrified to "not treat him fairly" and the Democrats will do what they fo best when confronted with an adversary that actually fights back, try to accommodate him in anyway they know how.

Trump is winning and he's winning big. Not only is he on the verge of getting the GOP nomination by the largest landslide in GOP history, he's going to make the GOP establishment love him.(at least publicly for fear of getting his wrath.)

If this is a good or bad thing, it's yet to be decided, but Trump knows exactly what he is doing.

You don't agree with ANY of his stances? what about make America great again? lol....I happen to agree with 99% of what he says.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Makes you really wonder if there really was a conspiracy to throw the vote to Hillary.

Did the RNC pledge anything? The pledge is made BY Donald Trump TO the RNC. The RNC pledged NOTHING! How is the RNC not standing up to its end of a pledge that it never made???

Here is the pledge:

"I, _______, affirm that if I do not win the 2016 Republican nomination for President of the United States I will endorse the 2016 Republican presidential nominee, regardless of who it is."

It continues: "I further pledge that I will not seek to run as an independent or write-in candidate nor will I seek to accept the nomination for president of any other party."

Source

The RNC owes Donald NOTHING. He's putting himself in a victim position by LYING about some pledge the RNC has to him, and his supporters, naturally, believe him.

I hope he goes independent! At least Ted Cruz won't win, and that's my biggest concern on the RNC side.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Excellent point!

Saying nothing about the pomposity of the Pledge at any rate.

Would be pretty funny to see dem Hillary, GOP Cruz, independents Bernie, Trump, and Bloomberg all running.

I'd have to predict Cruz the winner with about 30 %.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
Did the RNC pledge anything? The pledge is made BY Donald Trump TO the RNC. The RNC pledged NOTHING! How is the RNC not standing up to its end of a pledge that it never made???

Here is the pledge:

"I, _______, affirm that if I do not win the 2016 Republican nomination for President of the United States I will endorse the 2016 Republican presidential nominee, regardless of who it is."

It continues: "I further pledge that I will not seek to run as an independent or write-in candidate nor will I seek to accept the nomination for president of any other party."

Source

The RNC owes Donald NOTHING. He's putting himself in a victim position by LYING about some pledge the RNC has to him, and his supporters, naturally, believe him.

I hope he goes independent! At least Ted Cruz won't win, and that's my biggest concern on the RNC side.

You've got independents Bernie & Bloomberg likely on your side, so no.......no fairy tale ending for the dems.

originally posted by: stevieray
You've got independents Bernie & Bloomberg likely on your side, so no.......no fairy tale ending for the dems.

I'm sorry, I don't understand your response... What is "my side"? To be clear, I am not a Democrat.

Wow, Trump actually signed the pledge not to run as a third party? I think if he ran as a third-party candidate, it would be a great mess for the Republicans.

originally posted by: darkbake
Wow, Trump actually signed the pledge not to run as a third party? I think if he ran as a third-party candidate, it would be a great mess for the Republicans.

Indeed. A great mess for the Republicans, but good, I think, in the long-run for the American people.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: stevieray
You've got independents Bernie & Bloomberg likely on your side, so no.......no fairy tale ending for the dems.

I'm sorry, I don't understand your response... What is "my side"? To be clear, I am not a Democrat.

well, decrying both Trump and Cruz doesn't make you look like much of a conservative OR GOP.

Who's your guy ? Gilmore ? Don't tell me.....Christie, Rubio, Kasich, Bush......

Cruz is the only real conservative, besides Carson who can't win. Trump's at least conservative on the border, budget, and international relations. If we can't get Cruz, that's the next best thing. Even if he embraces more crony capitalism. Beyond Cruz, that's the best progress that will be made.