Saudi Arabia and Turkey prepare for Syrian invasion, expect 'massive escalation'.

If Russia goes alone vs turkey and saudy I see nukes flying. So in next 24h we can see some mushrooms in the sky.

Just goes to show you, Turkey does not want peace. Yesterday we were as close to a cease fire as ever. Turkey and Saudi has invested far to much to sit back and see Assad rebuild his country. I feel like this is crunch time, the line has been drawn and no one can back down now.

So basically, if Russia stands frim they will be directly at war with Saudi Arabia and Turkey inside of Syria. Great.

a reply to: MrSpad

Thank you for the additional info.

You know, I was expecting for the terrorist states from ME + Turkey to recognize another terrorist group as the legal representatives of Syria, but the west too? It's not too surprising when they are the ones funding them...
Insane what's becoming of this world.

If Arab league + turkey continue with this illegal act( for me Assad's government is still the legal one because they have the support of Syrian people ) you are right. The nukes will be flying and i hope for that to happen. Truly, because out of chaos comes order. Maybe when everything is destroyed those who are left will rebuild our civilization in a more healthy way.

originally posted by: saadad
If Russia goes alone vs turkey and saudy I see nukes flying. So in next 24h we can see some mushrooms in the sky.

Russia can take out Turkey and Saudi walk in the park style It has massive economic resources and reserves plus a technological edge.

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: DerBeobachter

Just a matter of time when a turkish fighterjet meets a russian one...

Russia better hope it isn't over Turkish territory when they do...it didn't work out so well the last time.

A Russian SU-24 Against two F16 Fighters would always end in the SU 24 going down

Lets see if they can do that to the SU 35 s

Riouz

originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Again, why would you spend so much money on conventional army when you can use that money for nuclear weapons? This has been done by both US and Russia.

If Turkey and Saudi Arabia invade Syria they should be sanctioned by the UN because that move would not be legal. Let's see if the US and their western puppets are ready to sanction their best buddies. Didn't think so.

Let's hope Russia takes down erDOGan and the terrorist state of Saudi Arabia.

War games and strategic planning. To run war game simulations, you assign a value to every resource you have and their effective fighting power; soldier with knive = +1, soldier with grenade = +10, tank = +1000, fighter plane = +100,000, aircraft carrier = 1 million,1 nuke = +1 billion, silo site = +100 billion. Each country has a particular total value. When one side attack another, their score goes down. Once below a minimum value they cannot win,, so they lose (in which case, if they still have nukes, it's fire at designated targets at will). Each side knows this, and will do anything to avoid an escalation that leads to a massive loss. So it's easier just to have a proxy war where you limit access to most destructive weapons.

originally posted by: Esoterotica
Does America have to get involved in this at all? Would our oil supplies be threatened by this kind of regime change or are we just world policing?

Nope, but they wont listen to us either. We are fine, we even have more than enough oil, we never should have gone in or supported any of this crap. But the politicians don't appear to care what the public thinks.

Hoping to vote them all out soon!

originally posted by: Riouz

Lets see if they can do that to the SU 35 s

I wonder if the SU-35's will realize they are escorted by f-22's at all times.

originally posted by: saadad
If Russia goes alone vs turkey and saudy I see nukes flying. So in next 24h we can see some mushrooms in the sky.

That I doubt because we would just have nukes flying their direction.

Its all craziness, but yes, we are in WW3. It just doesn't feel like it yet but have no doubt we are in it.

a reply to: Kitana

We are not yet in world war.

It's just cold war 2.0 for now at least.

originally posted by: saadad
If Russia goes alone vs turkey and saudy I see nukes flying. So in next 24h we can see some mushrooms in the sky.

I hope they are portabellas.

a reply to: Nikola014

There is nothing cold about this. Russia is dropping bombs, US is dropping bombs, Turkey is dropping bombs, Iran is dropping bombs and ISIS is infiltrating us all.

Yes, this is WW3 - the beginning. Thing is, no one is thinking anymore. Its a dang free for all.

a reply to: Kitana

Again, it's a cold war as there's no real direct fight between the super powers.
What's happening now, we already had during the first period of cold war.

Korean war, Vietnam...etc.

a reply to: Kitana

Calm down, this isn't WW3. Bombs will not be dropping anytime soon, well except in Syria.

Russia and the US might do some chest puffing, but neither leader is willing to push the

originally posted by: Vector99
I wonder if the SU-35's will realize they are escorted by f-22's at all times.

Yes, they will be aware.

F-22's are designed to minimize radar detection ranges, not negate them. For them to 'escort' any Turkish or Saudi attacks, they will have to come within 20-30km ranges (or less) from multiple radars & SAM installations that are capable of detecting them at those (if not longer) ranges.

There is nothing actually worth risking F-22's is in this area. It would be utterly foolish to risk loosing that kind of technical knowledge on the off chance that one is brought down.

The only way to negate that would be to attack Russian equipment from outside of Syria, which isn't on any NATO member's to do list just yet.

a reply to: Vector99

True, but Turkey has been pushing the envelope. They are dead set not to see the Kurds take out there terrorist sprogg Isis. In doing so they could just have a new state of there own. I wish Nato would kick Turkey out of the club, before its to late, and they have to stand by there allie.

Israel wont let the boys screw around so close to its borders....they have nukes too, and the balls to use them....

a reply to: peck420

I meant the US will put F-22's in the air over Turkey most likely anytime a SU-35 is in the air. With the F-35's now being combat tested and ready in the early development phases, I would imagine a couple of those too will be there.

Good chance to test Russian defences in this conflict, don't think for a second the US isn't drooling hand over foot to try out their toys against the S-400's to see what Russia can see and from where and how far away.

a reply to: daaskapital

Meh, I think the Russian Air Force and the Syrian Army are close to cutting off the main terrorist supply line via Turkey.
I think the US and the EU (NATO) will say anything to keep that from happening.

Suddenly, they want to 'talk Peace'. Really, just delay tactics to prevent isolating all the Insurgents in Syria that will be cut off.

Suddenly they threaten more war, Saudis and Turkey will come in and shore up their "Assad must go" campaign.

Both are disingenuous. I remember a Syrian commander stating with Russia's help they would drive the insurgents out of Syria, all the way back to Turkey where they come from.

Looks like that operation is reaching a crux, unless US and EU (NATO) can pull a rabbit from a hat…

I don't think they can, the sign of desperations are in the air. If they could do something about the imminent failure of the western back insurgency , they would have by now.

Idle talk and veiled threats bear that out.