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originally posted by: Mastronaut
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Mastronaut
You mean the alliance designed to counter the Soviet Union? The alliance that invited Russia to the table? The alliance that has tried time and again to include and work with Russia only to have Putin open his mouth and confirm his stupidity?
I am not sure whats worse.. Putin's stupidity or the people on this site who are incapable of acknowledging it.
Ye I'll build up an anti Xcathdra alliance and then invite you. Then I'll call you stupid when you'll refuse and then I'll coerce most other people into it by bribing their politicians.
And since we're at it, can you link something about this invite into NATO that isn't some pathetic newsliar from your administration? Or is this the usual bs you claim and never reply to?
Except that happened long after the meeting that happened in Sept. of 2013,
You can, but it has been shown that video wasn't a year before.
The violence that Russia is behind, in case you forgot Ukraine was not having problems in those areas until Russia sent in those to start it. And it's funny that 70% of those in the East want to stay as one country...
originally posted by: Mastronaut
Do you realize Russia isn't the soviet union?
originally posted by: Xcathdra
Someone should explain that to Putin using small words that he will understand considering he acts like he is in charge of the Soviet Empire, the very empire that collapsed because their leaders made the same mistake Putler is making now.
As for your intentional attempt to change what I said... It doesn't work for putler and it wont work for you. People are smart enough to read and understand what people type so you should stop trying to mislead people by intentionally changing what others say.
As I have stated before - Everything Putin is bitching about with regards to NATO are a direct result of Putin's actipons and his ignorant misinformed belief that ukraine is subject to Russia rule. They are a sovereign nation, just like Georgia, and the sooner Putler, and people with your mind set, understand that the faster we can dial down tensions.
To be honest I dont think Putler wants peace. It would mean having to explain to the Russian people his failures. This way he can continue to blame everyone but himself. While it doesn't fool anyone outside of Russia, the Russian people are slowly coming to the same conclusions and are starting to see putin as a failure.
originally posted by: Mastronaut
You are leaving out the efforts made to collapse that empire like if it was only soviet's fault. Putin is trying to restore the tzarist empire, not the soviet one and it's a huge difference. The situation is also very different from the late '80s so I think it's not really comparable.
originally posted by: Mastronaut
I understand that you can't understand what is an apology, but if you didn't read I apologized. I'm not campaigning for others and I'm surely not a great writer, don't try to make me seem like I have an agenda, mistakes happens especially when you aren't native english.
originally posted by: Mastronaut
It's called sphere of influence and your country raped the sovereignity of most country in the world, in a way or another. It's blatantly hypocritical to make it seem like putin does it worst. Not like he didn't want to, but he couldn't.
originally posted by: Mastronaut
The problem is that cornering him drew a lot of support. In Europe he was at an all time low before 2014, with all the assassination, oil/gas deals, money laundering, and even the caucasus "incidents" were really viewed as russian aggressions.
But things changed and the ukraine nazi coup was too much and we wouldn't know or care much if it wasn't for Victoria Nuland.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
The Soviet union collapsed because communism and that style economy failed. It had nothing to do with the west.
You didn't apologize. An apology does not contain thinly veiled attacks. It doesn't include comments about posting history. Had you taken the time to read and understand my post while not trying to intentionally distort what I said we wouldn't need to derail the conversation in the first place.
No its called diplomatic relations between sovereign nations. Putin sure likes to bitch about not being treated with respect or as an equal but he sure doesn't mind treating other nations in that manner. It reminds me of a quote from a tv show -
If you don't want NATO or EU on your borders then stop treating those neighboring nations like crap.
There was no coup no matter how many times you repeat the lie (Goebbels / Hitler are turning in their grave). They are still viewed as Russian aggression and the only thing thats changed is the number of incidents reduce column inches for reporting on all of them.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Salander
Actually we should have listened to Patton.
There was no coup no matter how many times you repeat the lie (Goebbels / Hitler are turning in their grave). They are still viewed as Russian aggression and the only thing thats changed is the number of incidents reduce column inches for reporting on all of them.