Do human beings have any inherent responsibilities?

a reply to: Profusion

none what so ever - welcome to reality

a reply to: Profusion

We were all born with free will. Inherent responsibilities would be...oxymoronic.

a reply to: Profusion

A subjective argument? What rational objective human being will say poor health is responsible? No, saying one has no responsibility to be healthy is inherent stupidity, the kind you are born with.

I do not need to prove that "the latter is better", I need to prove that the latter is an inherent responsibility that we are born with. Yes we are responsible for the health and condition of our bodies. No one nor nothing else has that responsibiliy, unless it is the mother and we are a helpless child. These are inborn existential responsibilities.

It does apply to a helpless child, it just cannot do it. So the mother makes sure the child is healthy. It's written in our very genes.

Do human beings have any inherent responsibilities?

whenever i see a variation on the quintessential question of purpose, i imagine someone walking into the worlds biggest grocery store and asking if theres anything good to eat. use your sense of discernment and you should have an answer soon enough, to put it gently.

originally posted by: Semicollegiate
a reply to: Profusion

People are responsible for their actions.

You're using the word "Responsible" as an adjective. This is not the same as using the world "Responsibility" as a noun.

originally posted by: Semicollegiate
a reply to: Profusion
They get the benefit of good actions and have to suffer the consequences of bad actions.

Tell that to the people who own banks.

In a perfect world, you would be right. However, people are more likely to benefit from the wrong actions than being a good-two-shoes. It's why Psychopaths flock to CEO positions.

Matthew 6:25-34 pretty much covers this. Why do you toil with responsibility of this world?

I'd liken us to caterpillars who are too preoccupied with our responsibilities as caterpillars to ever metamorphose into a butterfly. We put our faith in things that are fleeting, never realizing and investing in the infinite (treasures in heaven, etc).

originally posted by: cooperton
Matthew 6:25-34 pretty much covers this. Why do you toil with responsibility of this world?

I'd liken us to caterpillars who are too preoccupied with our responsibilities as caterpillars to ever metamorphose into a butterfly. We put our faith in things that are fleeting, never realizing and investing in the infinite (treasures in heaven, etc).

and there are those who endeavor as worms to make themselves into butterflies, never realizing they already have everything they need to be fruitful.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

and there are those who endeavor as worms to make themselves into butterflies, never realizing they already have everything they need to be fruitful.

Touche. But, luckily for us, God manifest in human form to tell us of our Destiny. The "Son of Man", literally the offspring of the human, is the second birth described by Jesus and entails a metamorphic, transcendental reality. Similar to Plato's Cave allegory. Most of us get too distracted by this shadow reality and never escape the cave. Hindus call it an escape from Samsara, Nirvana, Enlightenment, etc.

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: TzarChasm

and there are those who endeavor as worms to make themselves into butterflies, never realizing they already have everything they need to be fruitful.

Touche. But, luckily for us, God manifest in human form to tell us of our Destiny. The "Son of Man", literally the offspring of the human, is the second birth described by Jesus and entails a metamorphic, transcendental reality. Similar to Plato's Cave allegory. Most of us get too distracted by this shadow reality and never escape the cave. Hindus call it an escape from Samsara, Nirvana, Enlightenment, etc.

i will agree with you on that. heaven, samsara, nirvana, its all a form of escapism, escaping the harsh and unforgiving reality of possessing mass and the sense to comprehend what happens to it. the grass is not greener on the other side, its just in a different spot and occupied by new challenges. are you not challenged enough by this world? or perhaps not rewarded enough? tisk, tisk.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

i will agree with you on that. heaven, samsara, nirvana, its all a form of escapism, escaping the harsh and unforgiving reality of possessing mass and the sense to comprehend what happens to it. the grass is not greener on the other side, its just in a different spot and occupied by new challenges. are you not challenged enough by this world? or perhaps not rewarded enough? tisk, tisk.

Solomon, arguably the richest man in history, with endless material splendor admits: "Everything is Meaningless". Pursuing endeavors in this world is like chasing the wind. I disagree that the New World would be the same, I think it is a whole new way of life that is not plagued by the fleeting pleasures and responsibilities of our contemporary condition. I think the challenge of this world is not to remain here, but to find life... the path is narrow and few have found it.

originally posted by: Profusion
I want to make the question as clear as possible:
Are human beings born with any responsibilities that they must fulfill?

Yes; the responsibility is: for that eternal entity that occupies a human vessel (YOU) would be only to further its own enlightenment (on a path to realize or connect with its ultimate creator). This system is based upon information discovery; to drag you kicking and screaming into the profoundness of 'knowing' why you exist [at all or in the first place].

originally posted by: cooperton
Solomon, arguably the richest man in history, with endless material splendor admits: "Everything is Meaningless". Pursuing endeavors in this world is like chasing the wind. I disagree that the New World would be the same, I think it is a whole new way of life that is not plagued by the fleeting pleasures and responsibilities of our contemporary condition. I think the challenge of this world is not to remain here, but to find life... the path is narrow and few have found it.

Solomon misinterpreted the lesson directed to him personally is all. No context/explanation as to why 'everything is meaningless'. Nothing is meaningless; everything that happens has content or contrast to effect how the eternal soul progresses and there is no arbitrary argument that can be applied, because each one of us is 'individualized' to a specific bewildering experience. It is called "Dante's Inferno".

a reply to: cooperton

Pfft. There is life here. Learn to appreciate what you have.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: cooperton

Pfft. There is life here. Learn to appreciate what you have.

A simple concept: gratitude.