Militia Moran(sic) Calls for Murder of Americans

a reply to: mOjOm

I dont really care about that, and they have their right to say what they please. However, intentionally lying in a thread title in an effort to sensationalize the public in a fervor by making false claims that he specifically is calling for murder is distasteful at best, and at worst, filing a false report.

To make claims someone is threatening to kill or harm falsely can get you in trouble in the real world. A mere change in the headline is all I am suggesting.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Sure. I can agree with that.

Again, we can thank our Freedom of Speech again for that as well.

a reply to: Jonjonj

LOL

They don't do subtlety or nuance do they?

I always make the point of it.

K~

As for the rest of you,,,

The thread title isn't a lie, you can dance around denial all you want but his intent is clear.

I guess I wont feel so bad when the feds blow his useless brains out, considering he's now made terroristic threats
against me & mine.

K~

originally posted by: aethertek

I guess I wont feel so bad when the feds blow his useless brains out

Advocating the murder of an American.

Pot, meet Kettle.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: aethertek

I guess I wont feel so bad when the feds blow his useless brains out

Advocating the murder of an American.

Pot, meet Kettle.

Liberals are only liberal when you agree with them. When opposed the name calling or worse comes out. See many many deceased friends of the Clinton's as just how forceful and down right mean the touchy feely crowd can be because they usually over react based on emotion instead of truth and facts much less hind sight and history.

a reply to: aethertek

Personally, I find it rather... um... curious that Fry was able to get any videos out at all and I have to wonder why the feds gave them their signals back. It seems rather odd that folks who had their phone and internet signals blocked by the feds would expect to get them back, and produce videos to post when it happens. Almost seems planned...

But, for what it's worth, I did find a partial transcript of what Mr. Fry actually said:

There's a whole bunch of lies going on. We're not going to shoot our own team, we're not going to...we don't plan on shooting anybody...we only plan to defend ourselves if the FBI came in and started to raid us or take us out of here...hell I don't know where these lies are coming from, but its obviously there's a lot of FBI trolls and shills and a bunch of misinformation people out there that are spreading that kind of stuff....."

Where indeed are these lies coming from???

What I see -- at least on the surface -- is a man stating he can and will defend his person and life from those who would harm his person and take his life. As is his inalienable natural and Constitutional right.

Sensational headline is sensational.

All he did was say people need to take a stand. I'm pretty sure nowhere in that video did he say KILL anybody.

a reply to: Boadicea

Supposedly he found a phone in the refuge & started using that, who knows.
As far as the feds go they're actually being smart in allowing these nuts to publish their nonsense.

First it provides them with intel of the nutters ongoing laundry list of crimes committed & who their supporters may be.
Second considering how psychotic this rambling nuts message is it allows the American people to clearly see & hear how delusional & dangerous these people are.

I'm not going to argue with you supporters, these vids were posted so people can hear & see for themselves what kind of fringe lunatics these militia types are.
So cherry pick all you want, to every one else I suggest you watch the vids for yourself to understand just how crazy these nuts are.

Currently from my read of numerous message boards most of America recognizes these freaks for what they are & have no sympathy.
So all the militia types should know that if you plan on trying to start your little war it wont just be the evil gubmint that you will be fighting but most of the American citizenry as well.

K~

originally posted by: aethertek
a reply to: Boadicea
I'm not going to argue with you supporters, these vids were posted so people can hear & see for themselves what kind of fringe lunatics these militia types are.
So cherry pick all you want, to every one else I suggest you watch the vids for yourself to understand just how crazy these nuts are.

Well, you may as well pick up your ball and move along then. You can't create a sensational headline and then not expect it to be scrutinized.

a reply to: aethertek


Radical Muslims talk like this and we are asked to "understand" that somehow we may have caused the attitude.

People falling for this obvious planned psy-ops again?

Fry is part of the 50/50 divide tactics.

The main players are under blackmail.

a reply to: aethertek

At what point does he call for "murdering" or even harming anyone, much less "unarmed Americans" or "liberals"? It appears you just made it all up.

originally posted by: 727Sky

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: aethertek

I guess I wont feel so bad when the feds blow his useless brains out

Advocating the murder of an American.

Pot, meet Kettle.

Liberals are only liberal when you agree with them. When opposed the name calling or worse comes out. See many many deceased friends of the Clinton's as just how forceful and down right mean the touchy feely crowd can be because they usually over react based on emotion instead of truth and facts much less hind sight and history.

Case in point:



I don't recall any outrage over this, a "main stream" news reporter calling for "violent revolution".

THEY shoot first...REMEMBER that...We will show up and fix things after.

a reply to: aethertek


Untrue. But your authoritarian/socialist leanings are rather disturbing to me.
^SEE: www.abovetopsecret.com...

In any case, this patriot is merely stating a fact. He's warning authoritarians not to bother with a gun ban or any other unconstitutional act. Not only would we outright refuse any such illegal laws, but even the attempt would near certainly spark the next civil war (which we all know has seemingly been brewing for years). This has nothing to do with your claim of "attacking/murdering liberals" A good number of militiamen are liberals/libertarians, and besides the radical alt-left already has the monopoly on attacking individuals over their views.

The goal is always to win hearts & minds and information operations (ie: refuting their disinformation/propaganda, spreading truth, leaked documents, etc). Militia is all about ensuring Constitutional rights for all.

He's warning the short-sighted controllers that their actions will cost far more lives than they're trying to save. His statement didn't need a video, however. It's a given. An established fact. An automatic response to tyranny. If ANY part of our Constitution is infringed upon for any reason, the grievance process is followed. If that process fails, restoring a Constitutional government/society is the only option. This has nothing to do with any sort of murder, and there are several ways this could even be accomplished diplomatically - provided even 1% of this country stood up for the Constitution/freedom (in practice, it'd be far greater numbers)

The only option not on the table is allowing the Constitution to be subverted by authoritarian utopia seekers. Ever. For any reason or excuse. Get that? There are no threats needed for that.

a reply to: JBurns

Snicker, now I have you data mining.

Dance for me.

K~

Will people denounce this ""violence"" will there be calls for domestic Terrorism, or does fall under protection of"muh free speech"

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
Will people denounce this ""violence"" will there be calls for domestic Terrorism, or does fall under protection of"muh free speech"

Actually if you watch the videos he doesn't make any actual verbal threats. The only words in this thread advocating violence are those of the OP. Here, let me quote them for you:

I guess I wont feel so bad when the feds blow his useless brains out

originally posted by: aethertek

Dance for me.

K~

Why certainly, don't mind if I do.

I thought I should offer you some criticism on this thread. In my opinion, in writing journalistic type threads, you should try to offer actual supporting evidence or at the very least cognizant arguments for the claims made in your thread title and original post, if you want to have any credibility. Those supporting elements seem to be lacking in this thread. Let me help.

I wrote this thread back at that time on a very similar topic:
ATS Thread-The Citizens For Constitutional Freedom (OR standoff) Never Made Any Actual Verbal Threats
I did eventually offer the small amount of refuting evidence to my OP claim that I could find when it became clear that other members were unable to do so. It's in there. You're welcome.

While I'm here, I have a loaded question for you:

Do you always support government corruption, heavy handed government tactics, wrongful conviction of innocent parties, and possible theft of mineral deposits from ordinary citizens by government officials; or do you only support these things when they are opposed by, uhm, "right wing religious nuts"?