Donald Trump: I'd bring back 'a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding'

We have committed atrocities in the past with prisoners. Some worse than waterboarding. It must STOP. There are right ways and wrong ways to accomplish goals. Torture is wrong.

a reply to: andy06shake


So we talk about the same and you just called me out because you didn't get the sarcasm.

all good that's the age we are living in.

a reply to: Swills

Donald Trump: I'd bring back 'a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding'

Or, OR, he could pack up the military from all foreign active war zones and restructure foreign bases within allied nations and completely change the global war landscape.

He could then funnel all of the spare billions of dollars he'll save from the ashtray of the military budget into rebuilding critical & non-critical infrastructure such as communications, public transportation, health care facilities, schools, roads, rail etc etc.

He could then focus on the homeless, unemployed, mentally ill, military Vets and create jobs and a better life for the millions of pissed Americans - and in doing so grapple back the reputation that the US once had as a land of the free.

Or he could build his wall, enhance the military into a global sith-lord death star type animal, kill all the Muslims and torture everyone using electric rods, nail pullers, stripping skin and other Hitlerite tactics so that he can continue to get everyone elses oil and gas to run his military so they can invade sovereign nations for their oil and gas....just like every POTUS before him.

He is a tool.

I think anyone who denies it is torture or sanctions it's use should have to endure it..like when people receive training in deploying the tazer..generally they have to take a hit as part of training.

He certainly has become proficient at baiting and luring. He may surprise us and be in the final round. ..

a reply to: ReadLeader

Oh, I think he will become the Republican candidate unless he says something that really offends his supporters. Than again, it's been demonstrated time and time again, he could say he worships Satan and his supporters would still rally around him.

I really don't think his supporters really like him, it's the idea they want to piss off the political establishment. However, it's a dangerous game for the country in my opinion.

originally posted by: Swills
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Donald Trump said he would “bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding”

I think he meant he would bring Rosie O'Donnell into the room at Gitmo and have her way with the prisoners to get the intel out of them! That would be worse than water boarding! Maybe having John Goodman give them a lap dance too...just terrible torture right there!

a reply to: Swills

This old fart milking the right-wing extremist.

originally posted by: Swills
Do we take Trump seriously ...

Really?

You better.

Trump has two goals:
1. Get Hillary elected.
2. Embarrass the crap out of the conservative 'silent majority'.

I cannot believe there are ATS members condoning torture. This is absurd. Not only because it is a human rights violation, but also because it DOESN'T F*CKING WORK.

As many people expected, Trump is upping the ante on his rhetoric and statements yet again. I wonder when he'll start saying that he'll execute all Arabs currently within the US.

Maybe waterboarding is too extreme,,,,maybe we should just rip out finger and toenails and teeth.....
sarc off

originally posted by: illustratum
a reply to: Swills

So what is your solution?

Diplomacy with political correctness on the top?

WTF does torture have to do with political correctness?

"I'M PULLING OFF FINGER NAILS WITH PLIERS BECAUSE I'M NOT PC!"

"ONLY A PC LOSER WOULD OPPOSE SHOVING HOT POKERS INTO BUTTHOLES"

no, it's called having morals. Sometimes I feel like trump could call for genocide against American citizens, and you weirdos would use the "I'm not PC" justification.

originally posted by: mahatche

"ONLY A PC LOSER WOULD OPPOSE SHOVING HOT POKERS INTO BUTTHOLES"

PPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!! LMFAO

I almost spewed my protein shake all over my keyboard reading that! LOL

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: illustratum

Pulling out the PC card already? That was fast, and expected.

Yeah, shocking, I support diplomacy. I'm tired of fighting unjust wars and killing civilians while only inciting terrorism. The war on terror is a joke, like the war on drugs, and thanks to our $14 million a day defense spending we've only created more terrorism and clearly the world is in a much more dangerous position than it was in the 90s.

Trump as commander and chief frightens me.

But Obama as commander in chief doesn't...Obama invites terrorists into the country and Trump wants to keep them out even if some type of extra persuasion is used to keep us safe, and Trump scares you??? You and Obama scare me...

a reply to: Iscool

Typical dumbass partasian response.

Because we are anti torture and anti trump that makes us obama supporters


State sanctioned torture does scare us and should scare any sane , non psychopathic person.


But derp derp derp we got to sacrifice our freedoms and values to protect our freedoms and values derp derp derp

a reply to: crazyewok


leave me out of it please. If anything, I'm not typical at all

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Swills

If I didn't take him seriously, I wouldn't support him. The US, if it is going to successfully fight Islamofascist terrorism, absolutely needs to use EVERY tool they have, including waterboarding and "worse."

History shows that the subject under torture will state what they think the torturer wants to hear just so the pain will stop as soon as possible. Innocent people have "admitted" to doing things that were impossible for them to have done due to being tortured. Torture is NOT an effective means to gain intelligence.

While not exactly a Trump supporter myself, I did think more highly of him before reading this latest quote.

Isn't torture against the US constitution?

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: crazyewok

Torture is not a #ing solution! Its never been a solution to anything!

It has to have been, or we wouldn't be doing it.

As bad as it is, there is a reason it's been used throughout the history of mankind.

I think that we think it must work as humans we always want a easy option but in reality its been stated time and time again its unreliable.

For confessions its useless. 1 hour of torture and I bet I could get you to admit to being a obama loving, putin supporting ISIS member who killed JFK and orchestrated 9/11.

For information again its unreliable as even intelligence agencys admit that people give fake information to stop the torture and that fake information wastes time in verification and lose ends.

Only thing torture is useful for is dehumanisation and punishment. To spread fear.

Hey look everyone! We're talking about Trump!

For those who are rage typing, tweeting your righteous indignation, please note that you are feeding the beast.

a reply to: Snarl

No, his plan is to stay in the media spotlight, so that he spends less money in his campaign. So long as people are talking about him, whether good or bad, his name stays relevant and more of his actual campaign message gets out.

He is not getting super pac money, he is not allowing anyone to lobby him or buy him in his campaign. He is operating on less money than nearly any other candidate. When you are spending your own money you have a tendency to try to save as much money as possible.

www.opensecrets.org...


Hillary Clinton (D) $48,109,057 = Outside groups / $115,563,929 = Campaign committee

Jeb Bush (R) $118,361,996 = Outside groups / $31,922,100 = Campaign committee


Ted Cruz (R) $42,455,837 = Outside groups / $47,086,857 = Campaign committee


Bernie Sanders (D) $31,911 = Outside groups / $75,023,152 = Campaign committee


Ben Carson (R) $13,732,549 = Outside groups / $54,036,610 = Campaign committee


Marco Rubio (R) $31,851,722 = Outside groups / $29,710,092 = Campaign committee


Donald Trump (R) $1,894,509 = Outside groups / $19,405,217 = Campaign committee

Now, Trump did begin doing the same as Sanders did, and allowed people to donate small amounts of money from individuals. Neither accepts money from Super Pacs, but those two are the only ones. Trumps committee money is from his own pocket. Nearly everyone spends much more money than Trump does in their campaign. Trump spends less than Clinton, Sanders, Cruz, Rubio, even less than Jeb Bush.

He spends less, by keeping his name in the media. Remember his motto, negative advertising is just as good for business as positive. This plays out every time in real life, advertising is advertising, and free is free. Its a matter of keeping people talking about you.

I don't believe this is more than hot air from Trump, seriously I don't. I think enough people would be against it in house and Senate and Trump knows it. It is not something he would even try to implement in office, he will be working on other rather more important issues.