Sanders Verses Trump, Lets Do This!

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd
a reply to: DBCowboy

Yeah, um. . . what's the upside to Sanders?

He's not Trump.

Tell you what, if Trump is going to grow government bigger than socialist-Sanders and tax me even more than Comrade Bernie, I'll change my vote.

Tell you what, once you actually read Bernie's policies and quit stating the same false statements, let me know and and we can have a constructive debate.

Quick question.

Will taxes go up under a Sanders presidency?

Anyone can cherry pick policies if they are taken out of context. Saying Bernie is going to raise taxes, without adding in what makes it popular is equivalent to me saying Trump's entire immigration plan is to just build a wall.

I'll step away from the thread and let the Trump supporters to continue spreading ignorance.

originally posted by: infolurker

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Sanders wants bigger government.

So he's a nope for me.

Sanders has already said he wants to raise my taxes by at least 9%.

At the same time, he wants to raise the minimum wage and diminish the cost of privatised health coverage while including universal healthcare. Some of the tax will come with the healthcare plans, but the prices will be offset through civilians not having to shell out thousands on private coverage.

Honestly, it's not impossible, and it's about time the USA catches up to every other country in the world. Take Australia for example. We have universal healthcare, and we do pay a tax which partly funds it. Despite this, we don't have to pay many thousands of dollars when we break a leg or need an emergency surgery. Our universal health care system coexists with a privatised system as well. Sure, the logistics are different between our respective countries, but it's not some unreachable goal.

a reply to: infolurker

That graphic is NOT Bernie Sander's plan. It is a chart based on someone else's calculations at vox.com, source .

It is one person's projections. I keep seeing this noted as the Sander's Tax plan and it certainly is not.

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd
a reply to: DBCowboy

Yeah, um. . . what's the upside to Sanders?

He's not Trump.

Tell you what, if Trump is going to grow government bigger than socialist-Sanders and tax me even more than Comrade Bernie, I'll change my vote.

Tell you what, once you actually read Bernie's policies and quit stating the same false statements, let me know and and we can have a constructive debate.

Quick question.

Will taxes go up under a Sanders presidency?

Anyone can cherry pick policies if they are taking out of context. Saying Bernie is just gonna raise taxes, without adding in what makes it popular is equivalent to me saying Trump's entire immigration plan is to just build a wall.

Will taxes increase?

It's not a hard question.

I don't want to have the government take anymore of my money.

I want to keep my money and spend my money how I want to spend it.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd
a reply to: DBCowboy

Yeah, um. . . what's the upside to Sanders?

He's not Trump.

Tell you what, if Trump is going to grow government bigger than socialist-Sanders and tax me even more than Comrade Bernie, I'll change my vote.

Tell you what, once you actually read Bernie's policies and quit stating the same false statements, let me know and and we can have a constructive debate.

Quick question.

Will taxes go up under a Sanders presidency?

Anyone can cherry pick policies if they are taking out of context. Saying Bernie is just gonna raise taxes, without adding in what makes it popular is equivalent to me saying Trump's entire immigration plan is to just build a wall.

Will taxes increase?

It's not a hard question.

I don't want to have the government take anymore of my money.

I want to keep my money and spend my money how I want to spend it.

Depends...how much do YOU make per year?

Your taxes might go up. Or they might not.
I'll take it any day over the trickle down idiocracy we've had.

originally posted by: the owlbear

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd
a reply to: DBCowboy

Yeah, um. . . what's the upside to Sanders?

He's not Trump.

Tell you what, if Trump is going to grow government bigger than socialist-Sanders and tax me even more than Comrade Bernie, I'll change my vote.

Tell you what, once you actually read Bernie's policies and quit stating the same false statements, let me know and and we can have a constructive debate.

Quick question.

Will taxes go up under a Sanders presidency?

Anyone can cherry pick policies if they are taking out of context. Saying Bernie is just gonna raise taxes, without adding in what makes it popular is equivalent to me saying Trump's entire immigration plan is to just build a wall.

Will taxes increase?

It's not a hard question.

I don't want to have the government take anymore of my money.

I want to keep my money and spend my money how I want to spend it.

Depends...how much do YOU make per year?

Your taxes might go up. Or they might not.
I'll take it any day over the trickle down idiocracy we've had.

I make enough so that I would see an increase.

This is the way I see Sanders.

Imagine you want to go to the store for food. Instead, I come in, take your wallet, buy what I think you should eat, spend what I think you should spend and give you food that you may or may not like or want.

In return, I want you to thank me for removing your freedom to choose what you want, eat what you want, eat when you want, and spend what you want.

Taxes...you work for a 1/3rd to a 1/2 of your pay already. That is before healthcare. Now, they want to tax you for healthcare instead of paying for healthcare like it is a benefit to you. You are giving the government control. When has that ever worked!!!

Sanders is a perfect mayor...or council person. Great ideas for a small populace but not 350 million people.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd
a reply to: DBCowboy

Yeah, um. . . what's the upside to Sanders?

He's not Trump.

Tell you what, if Trump is going to grow government bigger than socialist-Sanders and tax me even more than Comrade Bernie, I'll change my vote.

Tell you what, once you actually read Bernie's policies and quit stating the same false statements, let me know and and we can have a constructive debate.

Quick question.

Will taxes go up under a Sanders presidency?

Taxes are going to go up no matter who gets elected. This is one area I completely ignore during campaigning.

Now, if a candidate comes forth with a realistic plan to make the way we use taxes more efficient and not bogged down in red tape bureaucracy --- let me know.

originally posted by: matafuchs

Sanders is a perfect mayor...or council person. Great ideas for a small populace but not 350 million people.

TY, I agree.

I would love Sanders as my local rep.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd
a reply to: DBCowboy

Yeah, um. . . what's the upside to Sanders?

He's not Trump.

Tell you what, if Trump is going to grow government bigger than socialist-Sanders and tax me even more than Comrade Bernie, I'll change my vote.

Tell you what, once you actually read Bernie's policies and quit stating the same false statements, let me know and and we can have a constructive debate.

Quick question.

Will taxes go up under a Sanders presidency?

Taxes are going to go up no matter who gets elected. This is one area I completely ignore during campaigning.

Now, if a candidate comes forth with a realistic plan to make the way we use taxes more efficient and not bogged down in red tape bureaucracy --- let me know.

Is Trump or Cruz calling for an increase in taxes?

Is Trump or Cruz calling for making government bigger?

While you are correct that nothing much will change, I can't get behind anyone who openly states that I'm going to be poorer if only I support them.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd
a reply to: DBCowboy

Yeah, um. . . what's the upside to Sanders?

He's not Trump.

Tell you what, if Trump is going to grow government bigger than socialist-Sanders and tax me even more than Comrade Bernie, I'll change my vote.

Tell you what, once you actually read Bernie's policies and quit stating the same false statements, let me know and and we can have a constructive debate.

Quick question.

Will taxes go up under a Sanders presidency?

Taxes are going to go up no matter who gets elected. This is one area I completely ignore during campaigning.

Now, if a candidate comes forth with a realistic plan to make the way we use taxes more efficient and not bogged down in red tape bureaucracy --- let me know.

Is Trump or Cruz calling for an increase in taxes?

Is Trump or Cruz calling for making government bigger?

While you are correct that nothing much will change, I can't get behind anyone who openly states that I'm going to be poorer if only I support them.

Did I say they were calling for tax increase?

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: the owlbear

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd
a reply to: DBCowboy

Yeah, um. . . what's the upside to Sanders?

He's not Trump.

Tell you what, if Trump is going to grow government bigger than socialist-Sanders and tax me even more than Comrade Bernie, I'll change my vote.

Tell you what, once you actually read Bernie's policies and quit stating the same false statements, let me know and and we can have a constructive debate.

Quick question.

Will taxes go up under a Sanders presidency?

Anyone can cherry pick policies if they are taking out of context. Saying Bernie is just gonna raise taxes, without adding in what makes it popular is equivalent to me saying Trump's entire immigration plan is to just build a wall.

Will taxes increase?

It's not a hard question.

I don't want to have the government take anymore of my money.

I want to keep my money and spend my money how I want to spend it.

Depends...how much do YOU make per year?

Your taxes might go up. Or they might not.
I'll take it any day over the trickle down idiocracy we've had.

I make enough so that I would see an increase.

This is the way I see Sanders.

Imagine you want to go to the store for food. Instead, I come in, take your wallet, buy what I think you should eat, spend what I think you should spend and give you food that you may or may not like or want.

In return, I want you to thank me for removing your freedom to choose what you want, eat what you want, eat when you want, and spend what you want.

Well, your Repub alternatives will take a little less of your money, buy bombs make war, give your money to Citibank and now the Oil companies as well as the other corporate welfare they already get. But hey, You're obviously well off, so you won't be touched! HAIL REAGAN! (CHORUS: HAIL REAGAN!).

a reply to: the owlbear

Why is it considered such a terrible thing to keep what I own and to fight government from taking even more of it?

When did it become cool and trendy to rely off the teat of government?

I must have missed the memo.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: amicktd
a reply to: DBCowboy

Yeah, um. . . what's the upside to Sanders?

He's not Trump.

Tell you what, if Trump is going to grow government bigger than socialist-Sanders and tax me even more than Comrade Bernie, I'll change my vote.

Tell you what, once you actually read Bernie's policies and quit stating the same false statements, let me know and and we can have a constructive debate.

Quick question.

Will taxes go up under a Sanders presidency?

Taxes are going to go up no matter who gets elected. This is one area I completely ignore during campaigning.

Now, if a candidate comes forth with a realistic plan to make the way we use taxes more efficient and not bogged down in red tape bureaucracy --- let me know.

Is Trump or Cruz calling for an increase in taxes?

Is Trump or Cruz calling for making government bigger?

While you are correct that nothing much will change, I can't get behind anyone who openly states that I'm going to be poorer if only I support them.

Did I say they were calling for tax increase?

YOU said taxes are going to go up regardless of who wins.

TPP will rule the day and cause up to go down and every other point to meet at the pleb line . go Bernie :>)

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: infolurker

Pay more taxes, have bigger government.

Yeah, um. . . what's the upside to Sanders?

The upside of Sanders would be a Republican congress where he can't pass much of anything while bringing awareness to the amount of money in politics. The single most important thing that needs to happen is changing the lobbyists and campaign financing of the country.

Most likely Sanders won't be able to pass anything so don't worry about that.

Trump however, would be a disaster to foreign policy and out allies. He would make the US look like something out of idiocracy.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

I'll happily take Jon Stewart as our Commander in Chief!

a reply to: luthier

Republicans would cave in a second to Sanders. If Sanders wants a tax increase, that means republicans would also get more money. They'd "compromise" and only raise taxes 10% instead of 20%.

Face it, we're screwed regardless. But I'll never support anyone who openly wants to take more of my money and more of my freedoms and grow government.

originally posted by: jhn7537
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

I'll happily take Jon Stewart as our Commander in Chief!

He may not pass the drug test.

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: jhn7537
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

I'll happily take Jon Stewart as our Commander in Chief!

He may not pass the drug test.

He's sounding better and better by the second then!