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Does "Space" exist at center of black hole?

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posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 07:27 PM
Just curious if "space' that supposed to bend can exist in center of a black hole. If it can't exist there, then dead center of black hole would have 0 gravity, 0 mass, nothing? Just a void with crazy stuff happening outside ? =). )(

posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 07:40 PM

originally posted by: Xeven
Just curious if "space' that supposed to bend can exist in center of a black hole. If it can't exist there, then dead center of black hole would have 0 gravity, 0 mass, nothing? Just a void with crazy stuff happening outside ? =). )(

How big is the dead center?

posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 07:45 PM

originally posted by: VoidHawk

originally posted by: Xeven
Just curious if "space' that supposed to bend can exist in center of a black hole. If it can't exist there, then dead center of black hole would have 0 gravity, 0 mass, nothing? Just a void with crazy stuff happening outside ? =). )(

How big is the dead center?

I think it would depend on the mass of the black hole.

posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 07:50 PM
But the center is a finite point... is it not?

posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 07:51 PM
A black hole is a singularity. There is no space and no 'void'.

posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 07:57 PM

originally posted by: Xeven
Just curious if "space' that supposed to bend can exist in center of a black hole. If it can't exist there, then dead center of black hole would have 0 gravity, 0 mass, nothing? Just a void with crazy stuff happening outside ? =). )(

Black holes are actually just a bunch of excessive mass all compiled into one small area. So mass would exist in the center of a black hole, as would gravity. It appears black because light particles are also susceptible to gravity, and the gravity of a black hole is so strong that it even light can't escape it.

However, it is theorized to have what is called "Hawking Radiation" that essentially emits particles from black holes. It is also predicted that black holes should have a finite, non-zero temperature and entropy. This Radiation reduces the energy and the mass over time.

So it's not just "nothingness" inside black holes, but more-so just 'compactness'

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posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 08:02 PM
Black holes

Black holes obey all laws of physics, including the laws of gravity. Their remarkable properties are in fact a direct consequence of gravity.

A black hole can only capture objects that come very close to it. They're more like Venus' Flytraps than cosmic vacuum cleaners.

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posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 08:13 PM

originally posted by: Xeven
Just curious if "space' that supposed to bend can exist in center of a black hole. If it can't exist there, then dead center of black hole would have 0 gravity, 0 mass, nothing? Just a void with crazy stuff happening outside ? =). )(

en.m.wikipedia.org...

The Planck length, is a space so small that for all intents and purposes it doesn't exist, but it is quantifiable, therefore it does exist.

It is the smallest quantifiable length.

And yes, at least this much would exist at least inside even the smallest bkackhole.

posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 09:53 PM
A black hole is technically a "gravity well. An immense depression caused by tremendous gravity in the space/time fabric of the universe . So yes , space/time exists in a black hole but not as we know it. When an object is pulled into a black hole it is not completely destroyed. What does exist is the "information" of that object.

For the poster that stated a "singularity" - a singularity in theoretical physics is defined as "we dont know" . The singularity spoken of is not the black hole itself , rather what happens at the very "bottom?"

posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 11:07 PM
For a fascinating alternative take on the reality and physics of black holes, research Nassim Haramein and his scientific theories. I watched the YouTube videos of his presentation at the Rogue Valley metaphysical conference, and it forever changed the way I view and experience the universe. Be forewarned, it's 8-9hrs in total length. But if you have the chance, even over multiple viewings, I HIGHLY recommend it. It's impossible to synopsize his ideas. But in the most basic terms it contends that modern physics has gotten hopelessly and terminally bogged down in mathematical minutia, that the concepts of both 'Dark Matter' and 'Dark Energy' were invented to plug the holes where math failed to explain the forces of the universe, and that ultimate understanding lies within the concepts of geometry, fractals and torsion. He also makes a solid case that this concept was previously understood by societies that existed on earth thousands of years ago who purposefully encoded it into their art, architecture and engineering, in the form of sacred geometry.

Seriously mind-blowing stuff friends!

posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 04:04 AM

No it basicaly just a really big neutron star

posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 06:38 AM

originally posted by: Gothmog
A black hole is technically a "gravity well. An immense depression caused by tremendous gravity in the space/time fabric of the universe . So yes , space/time exists in a black hole but not as we know it. When an object is pulled into a black hole it is not completely destroyed. What does exist is the "information" of that object.

For the poster that stated a "singularity" - a singularity in theoretical physics is defined as "we dont know" . The singularity spoken of is not the black hole itself , rather what happens at the very "bottom?"

I am just speculating a black hole would displace all the space at its center. Without space there would be no gravity there. No Gravity everything would disperse. Maybe a 2nd event horizon in there where space/time, matter do not exist, instead an absolute void exists at center. If you try an enter this area your atoms (particles etc...) would fly apart out into the 2nd event horizon where space/time, gravity still exist.

This would make the core of black holes an absolute void. Maybe this could also be the engine dragging the holes through space in the universe.
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posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 06:52 AM

originally posted by: M4nWithNoN4me
For a fascinating alternative take on the reality and physics of black holes, research Nassim Haramein and his scientific theories.

Oh no, people are best advised to stay away from Haramein. He's an established charlatan.

posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 07:00 AM

originally posted by: Xeven

originally posted by: Gothmog
A black hole is technically a "gravity well. An immense depression caused by tremendous gravity in the space/time fabric of the universe . So yes , space/time exists in a black hole but not as we know it. When an object is pulled into a black hole it is not completely destroyed. What does exist is the "information" of that object.

For the poster that stated a "singularity" - a singularity in theoretical physics is defined as "we dont know" . The singularity spoken of is not the black hole itself , rather what happens at the very "bottom?"

I am just speculating a black hole would displace all the space at its center.

But the black hole's center is infinitely small. Aka the singularity.

Besides, how can you "displace" space?

Besides, space _is_ void.

posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 07:09 AM

First you should ask the question what is space? If you know this you will also know the answer to 99% off all other questions

posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 07:12 AM

originally posted by: wildespace

originally posted by: M4nWithNoN4me
For a fascinating alternative take on the reality and physics of black holes, research Nassim Haramein and his scientific theories.

Oh no, people are best advised to stay away from Haramein. He's an established charlatan.

Just like many other scientists, who has the answers?

Everybody is right and wrong at the same time, it just depends on who is listening

posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 07:16 AM

originally posted by: intergalactic fire

originally posted by: wildespace

originally posted by: M4nWithNoN4me
For a fascinating alternative take on the reality and physics of black holes, research Nassim Haramein and his scientific theories.

Oh no, people are best advised to stay away from Haramein. He's an established charlatan.

Just like many other scientists, who has the answers?

Everybody is right and wrong at the same time, it just depends on who is listening

Nope. There is tested and proven science, and then there's hokery-pokery intended to woo the crowd, generate a following, and sell the books. Haramein belongs to the second lot.

(especially at 3:00 into the video, he intentionally lies to the audience about the comet "jumping")

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posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 07:19 AM

Yeah the term "hole" is a misnomer. It's still an object. It's gravity is just turned to the max.

posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 07:25 AM

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

Yeah the term "hole" is a misnomer. It's still an object. It's gravity is just turned to the max.

It's not even an object in the same sense as a star or a beach ball is an object. Below the event horizon, space continues all the way down to the singularity. Whatever produced the black hole (such as massive collapsing star) disappears into that infinitely small and infinitely dense point. The black hole that we could theoretically observe from the outside is just the gravitational effect on space-time created by that point.

posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 07:27 AM

But the mass still exists there. It's likely there and just VERY compact. Like there is probably no empty space between any particles within it. It is just one super small "thing" of mass particles and nothing else.
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