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CNN’s Baldwin Asks Sanders Supporters to Define the Word ‘Socialist’
At a recent Bernie Sanders rally, CNN anchor Brooke Baldwin asked some of his supporters to define the word socialism. And, well, some of them didn’t exactly know…
Baldwin showed her video of the very enthusiastic Sanders supporters she spoke with on CNN earlier today. A few of them contrasted Sanders with Hillary Clinton.
originally posted by: ugmold
a reply to: xuenchen
I don't think anyone can accurately describe Socialism, or for that matter Capitalism.
originally posted by: Esoterotica
Maybe if we were a democratic socialist country instead of a quasi fascist oligarchic capitalist country we'd have a better education system & people would be able to give you the Oxford definitions which some seem to put so much value on.
originally posted by: amazing
Probably because it's not really socialism. It's social programs. We have them now anyway...with k-12 education, medicaid, welfare, food stamps. The questions are...do we expand some, change some, take some away, add a few new ones? What's the cost?
That last question is were it gets tricky...people on both sides of the equation bombard us with propaganda until we don't know where to get a straight answer.
The cool response on ATS is to say "The Constitution doesn't provide for any social programs at all except maybe a military"
The logical response to that is, it would be nice to live in a Libertarian Utopia but, the reality is that it's not doable in the USA the way things are set up now.
This would be called a straw man argument. Not a very good one, by the way, as it isn't that easy to "knock over" as is evident by the many discussions found here on ATS over Socialism.
originally posted by: okrian
a reply to: xuenchen
You are already setting this conversation up by rules that don't apply. Neither Sanders nor his supporters desire to turn the United States into a solely 'socialist' country. I see what you are doing.
originally posted by: Tearman
I think most Sanders supporters have pretty clear ideas about why they support him and don't realy give a damn about your definition of socialism.
Way to put words in other people's mouths. Good job.
originally posted by: TheBulk
originally posted by: Tearman
I think most Sanders supporters have pretty clear ideas about why they support him and don't realy give a damn about your definition of socialism.
Yes, they want to use the brute force of government to forcibly take money away from people they don't like, so they cane have "free" stuff.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: xuenchen
Considering how badly the right misrepresents Socialism, I'm not surprised. It's hard to get a consistent answer about what Socialism is and isn't. Then that propaganda bleeds over to the left because people want to have balanced perspectives and get confused. Heck conservative members are doing it here in this thread.