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The CDC’s recommendation that doctors give every pregnant woman a Tdap vaccination during every pregnancy—regardless of whether a woman has already received one dose of Tdap—is an off-label use of the vaccine.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman
The CDC’s recommendation that doctors give every pregnant woman a Tdap vaccination during every pregnancy—regardless of whether a woman has already received one dose of Tdap—is an off-label use of the vaccine.
Yes. In the third trimester. Now explain how TDAP can retroactively cause underdevopment of the fetal brain.
While you're at it, maybe you can explain why there has been no increase in microcephaly in the US even though TDAP has been in use on pregnant women for at least 5 years.
But you're correct Zika has not be positively identified as the cause of microcephaly in Brazil. However, in 2014, before the Zika virus showed up, there were 147 reported cases. In 2015, after the Zika virus showed up, there were over 3,500 reported cases.
Source?
Besides, 560 pregnant women, in Colombia, tested positive for Zika and none gave birth to children with microcephaly,
Earlier figures from the health ministry showed 560 pregnant women had the disease, out of more than 13 500 infections.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Source?
Besides, 560 pregnant women, in Colombia, tested positive for Zika and none gave birth to children with microcephaly,
I have seen that number used as a statistic for Columbia, but not in the manner you claim. Where is it said that none gave birth to children with microcephaly? If that were true it would be important information.
Earlier figures from the health ministry showed 560 pregnant women had the disease, out of more than 13 500 infections.
www.nationnews.com...
Some 560 pregnant women are among those infected, the minister said, though so far no cases of newborns suffering from microcephaly, a congenital defect caused by zika, have been registered in the country.
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: Phage
I would also like your link disqualifying a tainted batch of TDaP as the culprit and indicating the issue arises before the third trimester.
Some 560 pregnant women are among those infected, the minister said, though so far no cases of newborns suffering from microcephaly, a congenital defect caused by zika, have been registered in the country.
Besides, 560 pregnant women, in Colombia, tested positive for Zika and none gave birth to children with microcephaly,
I don't recall discounting the possibility but you're asking me to demonstrate a negative? But perhaps you could provide evidence that a "tainted batch" may have been involved.
I would also like your link disqualifying a tainted batch of TDaP as the culprit and indicating the issue arises before the third trimester.
Why? When it is known that other diseases (toxoplasmosis, cytomegalovirus, rubella) do cause similar birth defects while there is no strong correlation showing that any vaccine may.
I have no idea what is causing the microcephaly, but if we are basing hysteria on correlative links, then it's likely that the TDaP vaccine is a far more compelling link.
originally posted by: Phage
So it doesn't say:
"Besides, 560 pregnant women, in Colombia, tested positive for Zika and none gave birth to children with microcephaly.."
Because, as far as I know, you don't have a newborn and still be pregnant. "Are pregnant" means they have not given birth.
originally posted by: Phage
Why? When it is known that other diseases (toxoplasmosis, cytomegalovirus, rubella) do cause similar birth defects while there is no strong correlation showing that any vaccine may.
originally posted by: LSU0408
So what causes the small heads in children? I went to school in the 80's with two brothers like that. In advance, I'm very unfamiliar with the causes...
originally posted by: Agartha
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Severe microcephaly (like the one seen with the kids in Brazil) can be detected before birth, usually at 24 weeks (of pregnancy). The TDap is given between 27 and 36 weeks of gestation... see why it couldn't be the vaccine?
originally posted by: Agartha
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Severe microcephaly (like the one seen with the kids in Brazil) can be detected before birth, usually at 24 weeks (of pregnancy). The TDap is given between 27 and 36 weeks of gestation... see why it couldn't be the vaccine?
originally posted by: LSU0408
So what causes the small heads in children? I went to school in the 80's with two brothers like that. In advance, I'm very unfamiliar with the causes...
Many different causes: some viral infections but also drug / alcochol abuse and malnutrition.
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
No. Not all microcephalic cases are equal.
From what I have read, it seems the brain fissures are not present in the microcephalic babies in question. The fissures develop before the eighth month.
Because the CDC is not recommending travel to the hardest hit areas by pregnant women in ANY trimester, I think it's too early to declare anything for certain.
originally posted by: Agartha
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
No. Not all microcephalic cases are equal.
From what I have read, it seems the brain fissures are not present in the microcephalic babies in question. The fissures develop before the eighth month.
Because the CDC is not recommending travel to the hardest hit areas by pregnant women in ANY trimester, I think it's too early to declare anything for certain.
Of course they are not all equal but the working hypothesis right now is that, to cause microcephaly, the infection had to occur in the first trimester. This is the information that's been made available by Public Health England.
But I agree it is too early to declare anything, however, the vaccine on the last trimester of gestation cannot shrink a head of normal size.