Proof of the danger of Conservative philosophy to life, health and the Welfare of people.

There’s really not much to say. The proof is in the pudding that conservative, mostly GOP philosophy is dangerous to the life, limb, and welfare of people!

The Alex Jones types who never ever complain when things like Flint happen (thousands of people poisoned because of the GOP philosophy of cutting taxes for the rich) or Kansas (where the massive cutting of taxes for the rich has caused school closings) and the proof that GOP conservative philosophy is actually DANGEROUS TO THE LIFE AND WELFARE OF HUMAN BEINGS.

Flint, Michigan: Did race and poverty factor into water crisis?

www.cnn.com...

"Sam Brownback’s failed ‘experiment’ puts state on path to penury"

www.washingtonpost.com... story.html
LINK

These occurrences are only the tip of the iceberg, as other horrors of conservative philosophy will soon trickle down into the news and we will witness more victims of their perverted social and moral philosophy of coddling the rich and neglecting the poor, near poor, and middle classes.

They’ll be more Flint Michigan’s, more Kansas’s; more states where schools have to close, where the massive cutting of school funds will cause untold damage to the educational institutions of America. Where people will be deprived of basic food and shelter because of the conservative GOP philosophy of serving the one percent…

The years of neglect of the infrastructure and the safety net because the GOP has convinced people welfare cheats and colored immigrants have been given American tax money to buy Cadillac’s and have been stealing food stamps with your tax money.

This IS NOT about left/ right paradigm or partisan bickering this is about HUMAN BEINGS.

This is about DIRECT cause and effect death and destruction of human beings health, and welfare connected to GOP conservative philosophy and policies

a reply to: Willtell

This certainly isn't proof. The link between reducing tax on the rich and the Flint water crisis is quite the stretch. Likewise in Kansas.

Also, if you want to call this proof, perhaps we could be fair and discuss the implications on life and safety that liberal overspending has. Or the lack of support for law enforcement by the left. Or border controls. Or crime. Or family values. Or people outright leaving the job market. Or....

One could go on and on for hours about harmful effects that left or right wing policies have. The point is, what you posted certainly isn't proof of anything, and it's just more rhetoric and partisan banter.

Oh, I see why you threw "Conservative" in there...

Flint, Michigan: Did race and poverty factor into water crisis?


You're so unbiased.

Came in here expecting to read someone's ridiculous bias,I got just that.

Makes me think about quoting this into the mudpit.

The points are debatable but not in the social forum.

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originally posted by: Willtell
There’s really not much to say. The proof is in the pudding that conservative, mostly GOP philosophy is dangerous to the life, limb, and welfare of people!

The Alex Jones types who never ever complain when things like Flint happen (thousands of people poisoned because of the GOP philosophy of cutting taxes for the rich) or Kansas (where the massive cutting of taxes for the rich has caused school closings) and the proof that GOP conservative philosophy is actually DANGEROUS TO THE LIFE AND WELFARE OF HUMAN BEINGS.

Flint, Michigan: Did race and poverty factor into water crisis?

www.cnn.com...

"Sam Brownback’s failed ‘experiment’ puts state on path to penury"

www.washingtonpost.com... story.html
LINK

Funny that the entire flint city council is democrat (and mostly minority) as is the majority of the state government. So tell me again, how a public service, controlled by democrats in office failing to meet minimum safety regulations is the fault of the GOP or makes the GOP racists?

You don't really mean "conservative". You are talking about capitalist.

There are indeed more and more of those "After me the universal flood may come". It looks as if those selfish tools will win. Too many are sitting on their butts and writing still on ATS.

Oops! I am one of them! At least I caught one lazy a*hole who spends his time at a nonsense forum instead of doing something in real life. To my defense I may say I am here not too often.

Sure it has NOTHING to do with the almighty failing of yet another liberal agency the EPA.

You realize this is just a string of multiple screw ups by that egency in the last year


The same agency the democrats are trying to push as the end all be all to regulate invironmental issues

So ... wait ... the leap pipes welds that were commonly used all over this country in the days before anyone thought it might be a problem are solely the responsibility of a Republican governor elected seven years ago?

Here's the painful truth: Back in those days, no one really thought there would be lead poisoning issues or they wouldn't have put those pipes in every house and building in the country, just like using asbestos as insulation. As time went on and issues become known, people who could afford it changed their pipes or moved out. Yes, it's a sad fact that the poor are left to deal with the crumbling infrastructure that turns toxic, but it's not like the people who built it said, "Let's poison people decades down the road" anymore than people today say, "Let's poison people."

It has been known for a long, long time that the pipes in many houses are lead welded. So why hasn't there been a program in place to address this? The mayor and town council going back for all those decades should have put some plan in place, but like politicians do, they figured if it wasn't killing people, it would be someone else's problem and they spent money elsewhere.

As a homeowner, this is one of those details about your home you should know before you buy, and if you do, you should know what could happen. Any effects coming out of your in-house plumbing are YOUR responsibility as much as anyone else's, just like if my tree drops a branch on the power line juncture to my house and takes out my power, I pay for those repairs and wait for the power company to address all other issues.

Should the water company have used the anti-corrosives? Yes.

BUT, should the homeowners have known they had lead in their pipes? Also yes.

This is also a good case for how bigger, more bureaucratic governments break down and fail to communicate at all efficiently or in timely manner with each other. At every level, from town council on up, there was a breakdown. You cannot pin that on any one person or party. It is systemic and the system is not solely owned by any one party in this case. The EPA did not communicate. The town council did not communicate. The emergency managers did not communicate. On and on and on ...

a reply to: Willtell

So, when government proves its incompetence and causes harm, it is the fault of those who warned of the inevitability of that outcome?

I feel like this thread should have been put in the mud-pit...

originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: Willtell

So, when government proves its incompetence and causes harm, it is the fault of those who warned of the inevitability of that outcome?

Progressive logic and ideology dictates that they ignore that the problem they want more government to fix was invariably caused by government in the first place.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Seldom do you and I agree, but this time we're on the same page. I'm all for political debate, but not this. This is just silliness.

Partisan politics never solve anything. While we sit around and try to blame the other party, real people have lead in their water. It would be nice if the games would stop for a minute to get some real issues solved for once.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: Willtell

So, when government proves its incompetence and causes harm, it is the fault of those who warned of the inevitability of that outcome?

Progressive logic and ideology dictates that they ignore that the problem they want more government to fix was invariably caused by government in the first place.

"The interventionist policies as practiced for many decades by all governments of the capitalistic West have brought about all those effects which the economists predicted. There are wars and civil wars, ruthless oppression of the masses by clusters of self-appointed dictators, economic depressions, mass unemployment, capital consumption, famines.

However, it is not these catastrophic events which have led to the crisis of interventionism. The interventionist doctrinaires and their followers explain all these undesired consequences as the unavoidable features of capitalism. As they see it, it is precisely these disasters that clearly demonstrate the necessity of intensifying interventionism. The failures of the interventionist policies do not in the least impair the popularity of the implied doctrine. They are so interpreted as to strengthen, not to lessen, the prestige of these teachings. As a vicious economic theory cannot be simply refuted by historical experience, the interventionist propagandists have been able to go on in spite of all the havoc they have spread.

Yet the age of interventionism is reaching its end. Interventionism has exhausted all its potentialities and must disappear."

-Ludwig von Mises

a reply to: Krazysh0t

It will land there, I guess. My experience of the last weeks is that every thread I intervene in is deleted within a few hours. Maybe I should change my interests.

originally posted by: Willtell
There’s really not much to say. The proof is in the pudding that conservative, mostly GOP philosophy is dangerous to the life, limb, and welfare of people!

The Alex Jones types who never ever complain when things like Flint happen (thousands of people poisoned because of the GOP philosophy of cutting taxes for the rich) or Kansas (where the massive cutting of taxes for the rich has caused school closings) and the proof that GOP conservative philosophy is actually DANGEROUS TO THE LIFE AND WELFARE OF HUMAN BEINGS.

Flint, Michigan: Did race and poverty factor into water crisis?

www.cnn.com...

"Sam Brownback’s failed ‘experiment’ puts state on path to penury"

www.washingtonpost.com... story.html
LINK

Can;t believe you actually got stars for pleading a case with no 'proof'...

On top of the fact that the Flint City Council and Mayor are pretty much on the LEFT, and have been for quite a while.

But okay...

originally posted by: amicktd
Partisan politics never solve anything. While we sit around and try to blame the other party, real people have lead in their water. It would be nice if the games would stop for a minute to get some real issues solved for once.

On this we can agree. It was like this after Katrina with the levees too. That was a similar problem - local politics squandering money that had been set aside for the express purpose of improving those levees against exactly what happened, but the local political structure had made the levees a political sweetheart post where cronies could be appointed to line their pockets and that's where the money all went instead of to fix the levees.

Why?

Because I guess everyone figured the worst case scenario would never happen, or at least wouldn't happen on their watch, so why worry and why not line their pockets?

Any guesses on whether or not local politics have improved and those levees have been reinforced like they were supposed to be? I mean, what are the odds the worst case will happen again anytime soon ... right?

So, anyone want to guess at how many other places people have been skimming money that was supposed to be fixing infrastructure all along and we're just waiting for another ticking time bomb to go off? And any bets on whom will shoulder the blame for political expediency when it does? And any bets that those who should are already long gone?

a reply to: Willtell

Ha,ha you's better clench up,the US has NEVER elected a socialist and hillary is crashing hard.
The PENDULUM will swing RIGHT ,now.
As to what it means I don't know.
YOUR doom and gloom HARDLY equates to causing a cold war which the current bumbler muddles through ,I COULD do better EASILY.
ALL you have to to is pick the right cabinet...above YOUR skills.