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originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: Gryphon66
Marxist socialism.
originally posted by: thinline
It's really quite simple. Socialism is a big pyramid scheme. You always need a bigger base to pay for the people that came ahead of you. Since Socialism always needs an expanding base. That means an ever expanding population. That population increase will need more land, more resources, more corporatiins, basically everything a good socialist marches against.
originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: Gryphon66
Well, that's convenient. If you want, we can go through the list of countries that reference socialism in their constitutions, and compare that to their place on the environmental index, if that is more concrete for you.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: Gryphon66
Well, that's convenient. If you want, we can go through the list of countries that reference socialism in their constitutions, and compare that to their place on the environmental index, if that is more concrete for you.
Are you really going to try to argue that the appearance of the word "socialism" is unified and means exactly the same thing everywhere in every context regardless of any actual facts?
If you are, please let me know, so that I will no longer waste any of our precious time in meaningless jabber.
You imply that every socialism is Marxist, having evolved no farther than "The Communist Manifesto" ... which was, at best, a provocation. You imply that all socialism denies property rights.
Here's a thought: refer to something exact ... in which "socialist" country is property ownership denied? That might be a reasonable starting place ... unless you merely want to mouth platitudes.
originally posted by: TheTory
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: Gryphon66
Well, that's convenient. If you want, we can go through the list of countries that reference socialism in their constitutions, and compare that to their place on the environmental index, if that is more concrete for you.
Are you really going to try to argue that the appearance of the word "socialism" is unified and means exactly the same thing everywhere in every context regardless of any actual facts?
If you are, please let me know, so that I will no longer waste any of our precious time in meaningless jabber.
You imply that every socialism is Marxist, having evolved no farther than "The Communist Manifesto" ... which was, at best, a provocation. You imply that all socialism denies property rights.
Here's a thought: refer to something exact ... in which "socialist" country is property ownership denied? That might be a reasonable starting place ... unless you merely want to mouth platitudes.
Meaningless jabber? Weird implications, references to the communist manifesto (try Das Capital), the unification of a definition of socialism – I've never read a more meaningless post.
We can talk about socialist states and their environmental rankings, or we can play make believe.
originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: Gryphon66
Compare any socialist state to their respective environmental performance index.
originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: thinline
Socialism is an economic system in which the government taxes wages, wealth and property at an extremely high rate and then takes that wealth and distributes it back to the population in the form of benefits and free services like health care, etc.
originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: Gryphon66
is your snark a defence mechanism? All I can imagine is a child.
State run manufacturing, and the state silence of scientists are contributing causes.
originally posted by: thinline
It's really quite simple. Socialism is a big pyramid scheme. You always need a bigger base to pay for the people that came ahead of you. Since Socialism always needs an expanding base. That means an ever expanding population. That population increase will need more land, more resources, more corporatiins, basically everything a good socialist marches against.
originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: Gryphon66
I'm curious as to what brand of socialism these European socialist countries are. I wouldn't mind a good factual point on this.