Is this a game changer in Syria?

I was watching R.T . last night and the presenters do a very good job with the facial expressions on where the Kremlin thinks the USA has been naughty...very naughty... and giving them cause for great concern. Watching Rory Suchet deliberating on a matter that by this reckoning is causing them great concern, was the fact that the U.S.A is building an air base in the North of Syria unannounced and uninvited by the sovereign Gov. This rather amounts to an illegal occupation whatever way you look at it. Apparently the Kurds are calling in air strikes on ISS. I think this could get nasty, as its another invasion for the Russians to consider.

a reply to: anonentity

R.T. is a Russian government propaganda outlet.

But you never knows whats real or what isn't.



here's all I could find...
‘US base in Kurdish territory could be target for ISIS, Turks’

Gulp !!

if so nothing can be done we will just have to sit by and watch everything unfold

a reply to: mbb94


So for a while their it looked like the U.S.A was going to let the Russians handle things in Syria. But suddenly we hear this is not about to happen. The USA foreign policy was to get rid of Assad , now we have Russia who wants him to stay, as they claim the N.A.T.O. coalition has fu%$#@ over enough countries already. Which is a good point, as Haig in Britain admitted they hadn't calculated for the power vacuum left after an "Ousting's" Since one Russian jet has been destroyed by a N,A.T.O. Country, I could see that this could quite easily get out of hand.

As Flashpoints for a global showdown go, putting a base on a sovereign state uninvited, is like willing it to happen. Especially as historically, when the Global economy tanks to this level, the inevitable tends to happen.

a reply to: anonentity

Well I thought the war was gonna be over in a few weeks once the Russians were involved? The Kurds are the heros against ISIS shoulda been helping them a long time ago. They deserve a Kurdistan

RT is the CNN of Russian news how can I take anything they say seriously?

Why would the US need an airbase in Syria when it has airbases in Turkey, Jordan and the Gulf States. That would make zero military sense since the US would need to secure that base and set up logistics for it. That would create more problems for the US than anything.

Russia has its handful with trying keep what is left Assads forces in the fight. The one of the few places they are facing ISIS they are getting knocked about in Deir al-Zo. They are lucky that everybody else is on the advance against ISIS and that ISIS can not afford to concentrate on Assads force but, it looks like at this point the would role over them while Russian keep busy trying to keep other rebel groups at bay. The Russians are pushing for talks ASAP. They need out soon or they will never be able to leave without Assad completely collapsing. Granted when they have a peace deal that says Syrians get to decide Assads fate, Assad will be done but, at least they can say they left him in power.

a reply to: MrSpad


This is interesting as it shows up the limits of using air power, the Vietcong were bombed to kingdom come, but it made no difference in the end, tactical strikes help, but in the end you have to have the "grunts" on the ground. Which have to do the real dirty work. As far as Vietnam went , they had to start taking guys that were borderline subnormal on their I.Q tests. All those college boys that could get out did. So it begs the question has the modern man got the required attitude, to undergo the stress of this type of warfare, without fragging keen officers which seem to have a death wish, or getting out of it, by self medicating, when things get intolerable , simply because when it gets #ty no body in command will turn up to risk their asses.. A generation that sits on a couch playing video games wont cut it. That's not saying that a few special forces types, don't have the required character, but they are few and far between. The problem became societal, long ago. You just cant have laws enforcing human abuse with penalties in the society, and then asking a soldier to become a killing machine and forget all he's learnt and take someone's life with a bayonet.

Which begs the question of "What are wars for?" the answer seems to be "Too enforce political change on the enemy". For the profit of your ruling elite. Well I guess only the dumb will do it.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: anonentity

R.T. is a Russian government propaganda outlet.

But you never knows whats real or what isn't.

R.T. is a Russian government propaganda outlet. - don't think there's much evidence of that from what I have seen of it. To me it seems to more closely resemble the truth.

Is there a suggestion here that Fox News and the other US media outlets are not government propaganda outlets?

then again, lets not forget truth is the first casualty of war.

a reply to: Azureblue

It wasn't so long ago that Ofcom, the official communications regulator here in the UK, was asked to investigate RT amid allegations of bias and Russian Government propaganda....... they found no such evidence! The goal of course was to have their license for operations in the UK revoked.

See, the whole "Russian Government Mouthpiece" thing was just another bit of BS to try to silence another outlet that perhaps says things our own government, and those wishing to stifle information, would like to keep from the public if it doesn't follow the "official" narrative.

You only need to look at the BBC, for instance, to see a massively biased and controlled propaganda outfit!

a reply to: anonentity

sad thing is greed overpowers ''doing the right thing'' which i think russia to some extent did the right thing. but now oil prices have dropped, and israel and turkey supposedly being exporters of daesh oil, on top you have a dictatorship thats been practically overrun i think russia had to intervene for their own interests. everyone else looks on russia as terrorists ect.....
but they didn't react to a (N.A.T.O) country attacking them. and i don't think they are scared, i think they aren't interested in the profits of this war but thinking about neutralising a threat to many helpless people rather than fund them, make money off media & trying to make someone's full pockets fuller. All we can do is sit by and watch it unfold

a reply to: anonentity

..." the fact that the U.S.A is building an air base in the North of Syria unannounced and uninvited by the sovereign Gov."...



the UN is the place for Russia & or Syria to lodge a complaint...
? is the USA building a facility for the Kurds?
that would seem more the case than the USA building Itself an Airbase/Airport on foreign soil (Syria) which is deemed a Regime-Change Target of NATO


an RT investigative report is only that... a news report... it is not Legal Action or Diplomatic action

originally posted by: Britguy
a reply to: Azureblue

It wasn't so long ago that Ofcom, the official communications regulator here in the UK, was asked to investigate RT amid allegations of bias and Russian Government propaganda....... they found no such evidence! The goal of course was to have their license for operations in the UK revoked.

See, the whole "Russian Government Mouthpiece" thing was just another bit of BS to try to silence another outlet that perhaps says things our own government, and those wishing to stifle information, would like to keep from the public if it doesn't follow the "official" narrative.

You only need to look at the BBC, for instance, to see a massively biased and controlled propaganda outfit!

RT will obviously tend to push their own cultural prospective. But on the whole I think their reporting of western news stories seem to be fair, and they touch on things that our own MSN doesn't. In fact it could be a better unbiased news source than our own. By the same token we only need our own version of RT in Russia, to do the same for them .

a reply to: St Udio


Ah Ha.... finally found out more about the former agricultural airport for the area...


(snip from Aljazera: )

...The airfield near the city of Rmeilan, which will become the first US-controlled airbase in Syria, was previously controlled by the US-backed Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG)

controlled by the Kurds for +2 years already
Also the USA has been busy expanding the old crop duster airport into a military/airforce base for jets & possibly drones

www.aljazeera.com...



here's a graphic showing the location of the airstrip in Syria (Kurd controlled Syria)




wow the airfield is way up in the far corner of Syria, surrounded by 'Kurdistan'... & as the article alludes, the US is not claiming the airport/airbase but is merely upgrading it for the Kurd forces that are squatting on Syrian soil in reality...

Australian News Article also tells US has built a secret Syria air base within 50km of the Russian airbase.

The area is controlled by Syrian Kurdish fighters who have been pushing back Isis with the help of American air power. US officials confirmed that a small number of special forces soldiers were being deployed, but declined to give details. “Because of the special nature of these forces, it’s very important that we do not discuss specifically where they’re located,” said Colonel Steve Warren, an army spokesman, in Baghdad.

“The airfield has been reconstructed and now has one airstrip for the American helicopters and a command centre,” said Abu Jad Haskawi, a Syrian activist who is based in the nearby town of Hasakah.

Added... Need subscribe for Australian link so found another by ibtimes

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