Dr. King on capitalism

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Edumakated

There's millions of homeless people.

There would probably be more if they weren't all in prison.

Stop pulling stuff out your ass. There are only about 112,000 people who would be considered chronically homeless. When you see claims of like 1.5-2 million homeless that is counting anyone who may have spent one night in a shelter, car, etc. This is not the same as that guy living in a cardboard box under a bridge for the past five years.

Five Myths About Homelessness

From the article:

Long-term homelessness is relatively rare. According to the Department of Housing and Urban Development, about 2 million people in the United States were homeless at some point in 2009 (meaning they stayed overnight in a shelter or in a place not meant for human habitation). But on any given day, only about 112,000 people fit the federal definition of "chronic homelessness," which applies to those who have been continuously homeless for a year or more, or are experiencing at least their fourth episode of homelessness in three years

a reply to: introvert

All 30 million+ of those people are to lazy to become computer programmers and make 10$ an hour like all the programming jobs being off shored to India!

a reply to: Edumakated

Why don't you reread the post.


And your number of 112,000 is total Bs there's that many on the west coast alone at least.

Have you ever been to California? There's homeless people on every street corner practically.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Edumakated

Why don't you reread the post.

And your number of 112,000 is total Bs there's that many on the west coast alone at least.

Have you ever been to California? There's homeless people on every street corner practically.

Why would HUD lie? They benefit from inflating the numbers.

a reply to: Edumakated

primarily, many homeless people never report to HUD for assistance due to lack of identification, mental health, and other factors.

originally posted by: onequestion

The puote]originally posted by: Edumakated
An old lady in a $500k house with no mortgage and $500,000 in the bank earning $20,000 a year in interest income is considered living in poverty by America's definition.

That is just factually incorrect and you know it. That situation puts that old lady officially in the middle - upper-middle class.

a reply to: AmericanRealist

Most people who are homeless don't bother applying for HUD assistance because the wait lists is years long.

I wonder what the total number of people using section 8, and public housing or some other form of rental assistance is in the US, 80 million you think? That's out of a workforce of 130 million or so.

a reply to: AmericanRealist

They don't know what they are even for or against to be honest with you.

In one hand they will talk about taking responsibility and then on other hand the fight against raising wages.

We're the ones trying to fight for better wages so there is less people needing government subsidies.

Why would you fight against raising wages while claiming that people need to be more responsible?

It's just nonsense.

a reply to: onequestion

I am actually getting ready to expand my little convenience shop with a second location that will mainly be a small cafeteria/coffee shop and sandwiches, and offer a small selection of electronics right next to a walmart. The irony, I will be under pricing wal-mart on these items by a nice factor and still be doubling my money or more per unit thanks to sourcing direct from China. I will be beating them at their own game, with shorter lines, and kinder service. Im not going to be getting rich, but my family will continue to be independent , well off, and able to save and invest for our future on our terms.

The plaza is also a great location for a barber shop, as the closest one is more than a mile in any direction. That is only in writing, but I have a couple of interested investors/barbers that we are all working on the numbers to make it profitable. Should not really be too difficult, the local neighborhoods are underserved in this regard, and if I get it going before anyone else will be the only one within a ten minute walking distance for 5000+ people. Wish me luck!!

Sometimes we got to take a failed plaza, and make our own opportunities. The best part is when the rent is negotiable because it has been sitting empty for like seven years. I cant exactly employ 500 people, but at least I can give opportunities to a handful of my friends and family to make a living.

I'll try and do right by the homeless that were recently kicked off the property and try and get them food and clean socks as often as I can.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: BIGPoJo

Poor Americans still die of malnutrition, preventable diseases, and from exposure.

Some of them live in their cars, and those are the relatively lucky ones. I know this, and I have never even holidayed there. Perhaps it is time to go out into the streets, into the worst parts of town, the slums with faulty wiring that cause apartment fires and deaths related to same. Perhaps it is time to visit the tent cities, and desert realms where trailers and makeshift tarpaulin hovels have been placed to house those who have lost their homes?

Perhaps it is time to ignore the press, and go and find out for yourself what happens to the poorest, and then realise that the people you think should be so grateful for their lot, are not doing too terribly well at all. Go and visit Flint, and have a glass of water while you are at it, and then tell me how good you think folks have it.

First you should calm down, second you should quit making assumptions. I hang out with homeless people up to two times a week. Mostly homeless veterans. My father was homeless as well for a few years. All of the homeless that I interact with and my father have one thing in common. Their predicament was by choice. I have great sympathy for them but you can't lead a dry horse to water.

Speaking of water, what does the Flint water issue have anything to do with this thread? I see that issue as a problem created by micro socialism.