How do we feed everyone without money?

Ok. Thinking utopian paradise here, so you far to right wingers who wants everyone to slave for food won't like this idea. Just warning you.

So there's a lot of poor and starving people in this world who are left out of the economy. I'm not talking just the US I'm talking the entire world. Either their resources are being stolen by Rothchild managed mining companies in Africa and Sourh America, or their country is in chaos in the Middle East, or there is a caste system like in India, or the United States, or the various other causes for world hunger.

Finance being the main reason why people starve, not lack of resources.

If you've been paying attention, which a few of you have, you know we are losing jobs in the western world. The main reason being technology! We are losing millions of jobs to automation and will continue to do so. Because of this there is a massive divide forming between the haves and have nots (almost everyone is a have not).

So we have issues to face now. At what point do we finally say that enough is enough and everyone on this planet gets food, water, and a place to live. Weather it's a lot of land they have to figure out what to do with or a thatched hut whatever.

So ATS, how do we feed everyone?

a reply to: onequestion

teach them how to feed themselves.

The biggest problem is the supply chain. getting food from the lands of plenty to the places needing help needs to travel, and in those travels, warlords and pirates control the resources..we can drop tons of bags of rice and flour to a desert village, but those are often met with thugs in jeeps collecting all, shooting any who try to make off with what they claim as their stuff for purposes of power.

Solution:
I see a future of smaller deliveries on the back of drones happening all the time..deliverys of food to the needy, and bombs to the warlords who would rob the needy...win/win.

originally posted by: buellmph
a reply to: onequestion

teach them how to feed themselves.

Chew on dirt?

a reply to: onequestion

I like how Alan Watts puts it(paraphrased); "money is something we invent, like inches. Remember the Great Depression, we had a slump on 'money'. There was no less wealth or resources. But when people came to work they were told 'sorry, no work today, there's no inches.'"



Sure, his argument has faults, but it brings some realization to what money is.

We have the resources to feed the world. But, we have the greed to starve it.

a reply to: buellmph

How? We need to open up land that people can actually do that on.

It's impossible for everyone to do that now we need an artificial system that doesn't require us to fish out the oceans and kill everything in site.

originally posted by: onequestion
Ok. Thinking utopian paradise here, so you far to right wingers who wants everyone to slave for food won't like this idea. Just warning you.

So there's a lot of poor and starving people in this world who are left out of the economy. I'm not talking just the US I'm talking the entire world. Either their resources are being stolen by Rothchild managed mining companies in Africa and Sourh America, or their country is in chaos in the Middle East, or there is a caste system like in India, or the United States, or the various other causes for world hunger.

Finance being the main reason why people starve, not lack of resources.

If you've been paying attention, which a few of you have, you know we are losing jobs in the western world. The main reason being technology! We are losing millions of jobs to automation and will continue to do so. Because of this there is a massive divide forming between the haves and have nots (almost everyone is a have not).

So we have issues to face now. At what point do we finally say that enough is enough and everyone on this planet gets food, water, and a place to live. Weather it's a lot of land they have to figure out what to do with or a thatched hut whatever.

So ATS, how do we feed everyone?

Capitalism is entering its death throes. Hopefully we will discover how to transition without blood. I think we need a intellectual conservative like Trump to help us transition into what is next. It wont be Capitalism nor Socialism but a Business man has the smarts to keep us from going into the true to fail socialism or communism. We need a hybrid.

There is going to be a transition from everyone working to only some working and then only leaders working, which will ultimately become full automation. Then everyone will be free to pursuit mental and pleasurable pursuits.

a reply to: Xeven

well in a way. Capitalism will always exist it's how it exist and on what level we choose to implement it.

Clearly we need a system of capitalism, mixed with a little socialism and with the right minds on the case it can work!

But what we're doing isn't right.

Let's go back 500 years. Nobody was hungry then... Oh wait..
Make that 1000 years. People had plenty of food then...no, that's not right.
How bout 1500 years? No
5000? No
Huh, people have always struggled with life's basic needs. Who knew?

a reply to: Bluntone22

People didn't have technology and integration


Just because people have always or seemed to have always or whatever is not an excuse for it to continue.

It's about damn time we put a stop to it.

Cannibalism

originally posted by: GeisterFahrer
Cannibalism

I was going to answer that with a funny comment but decided against getting banned.

You can use your imagination.

Aquaponics. 3 acres can produce 10 000 fish and over 1 million pounds of produce now that's optimum professional results either from a university or experts, but it just shows that a few farms can actually feed their whole towns.

The thing that floors me is that I have lots of ideas come, but have very poor health, big family responsibilities over my physical abilities and can't do it. If I had 1/2 the energy and most of the health of my closest friend, I'd get this going its the number one important thing beyond my family. Freeing this world. I've gotten to the point where I think because I was born knowing equality even as a toddler that this isn't my test so its up those who have to learn it or something because otherwise the hours and hours of meditation and envisioning health and praying for it as well, and trying health things I can't even afford, and winter lights for energy, would work.

Never understood the ideas coming, when there are many people overall, maybe 5-10% in every community that could do a lot. BUT THEY DON'T. AND NEVER HAVE. WHY? Bridegrooms to lucifer or something.

Donate land and get some non profit farms going that don't deliver food once every 2 months of stale past the due date crapola to families via salvation army. BUT EVERY WEEK, Fresh food and protein and milk. And grow some organic wheat and grains while you're at it and deliver it.

Get some good fun workshops for teens and teach them informal mechanics, create energy, get them building generators and tesla coils, turning out methane from plants.

Think...create....do!

a reply to: Unity_99

I would love to run an aquaponics farm.

Working on getting a skill that pays well enough to invest.

If you've been paying attention, which a few of you have, you know we are losing jobs in the western world. The main reason being technology! We are losing millions of jobs to automation and will continue to do so. Because of this there is a massive divide forming between the haves and have nots (almost everyone is a have not).

I consider myself in the "have nots" is you are basing it on $$$$$...

As far as being able to provide for me, my family and others in worse conditions than myself, I do quite well...

I grow my own food, I hunt when necessary, I fish often.. and I try to learn everyday.. One more asset that I have provided in nature that is close to me...

My point of view is that IF we have more folks, who can take care of themselves, sans the conveniences that are present today, the better we would all be and the better able to handle a situation where we may depend upon it...

It's nothing new, nothing revolutionary, it's making sure we learned the lesson's of the folks who were blindsided by the greed of those who won't lift a cloth to clean up their own spilt glass of wine...

Oh well... I guess we as a society will once again pay the price....

No worries... I f you end up stumbling by my place, I will feed you and as long as stock holds up, provide you with a water bottle to help you on your way...

a reply to: onequestion

There are things happening now that people have to stand up and ensure this takeover of the western nations ends, this lowering everyone to the bottom levels while the elite take it all ends. I don't know if people will win but on a soul level they don't even have to, they have to give their free will intents and stand opposed to all that topples Freedom and Equality because that free will is what matters. So we're being pushed into a confrontational thing, which also takes a spiritual or awakening of consciousness, ie envisioning positive outcome and winning, sending love to even the corrupt leaders, but not soft touch, alot more tough love and rigid defense is need, like general strikes, bullhorns and whatever it may take to Serve and Protect.

But, when it comes to helping, its really a community thing. I would wish there was a wing of white hats, hiding behind the open gates policies and destruction of the economy that was going to overcome the hard core group of dark hats and start redistributing wealth and community farms, homes, land resources, hope, creativity, art, joy, children world wide getting time to play, not struggle to survive in black market situations, but have a childhood in the phillipines, south america, africa, all over the world. In the ME, where so much of their childhood is taken.

But its not going to happen from groups in the wings. We can't give power away.

So aside from stating our free will and taking steps so they understand we oppose and denounce they're doing, its empowering ourselves and our neighbors.

We're supposed to be caretaking whole towns, like a big family. Finding solutions, for the able bodied and providing equality for those in need. Trying different things.

Reducing costs of housing, and energy, and replacing fossil fuels even through ingenuity and generosity for the town.
Teaching people to help each other, while still standing up and preserving freedom from tyranny and fascist dictates and the over active pen of the Pontiff who thinks he can over ride constitutions.

Getting people fed and also growing up and problem solving.

I've known this all my life since in school.

People always had the power to do this in their communities but don't seem to understand or support each other. They're always divided, conquered and its through selfishness.

a reply to: onequestion

This is how you feed everyone! Of course, you will have to fight big agriculture to ever get it done!

a reply to: infolurker

I agree.

a reply to: infolurker

I totally agree!

a reply to: infolurker

That's it!