Would you support social engineering aimed at reforming Islam?

a reply to: DJW001
Israel DID steal their country, knowing something isn't hate. Judging a religion you don't belong to is.

originally posted by: 369elyon
a reply to: DJW001
Israel DID steal their country, knowing something isn't hate. Judging a religion you don't belong to is.

No, the first Jewish settlers bought the land they settled on. You need to follow your own advice and learn about something before you condemn it.

a reply to: DJW001

There are a few differences between the Jews and the Muslims however. At the time of the siege of Jeruselum, it was passover, which means, a good measure of all jews were there. There were never many jews as a whole, as spreading their religion and converting people was not a part of their belief. They attempted to live separate, did not intermarry and did not spread, as a result, there were not countless millions. The siege killed most.

To explain, it would be like someone going in and destroying the Kaaba, while over 3/4 of all Muslims were there praying, and nearly killing them all out. As it is, that cannot be done with the Muslims. The majority cannot go to the Kaaba every year, it would never hold such numbers, so there is not much chance of killing their majority numbers in one fail swoop.

Judaism was very nearly wiped out, and with their beliefs being as they were, did not recover the numbers because numbers did not matter so much. Islam, seeks numbers, growth from within and without, seeks to keep knowledge of the religion alive, then rule. Look at the model mohammed left them, seek converts and growth, then, fight when large enough and rule.

I don't see what happened with either Judaism or Christianity being valid in the case of Islam. Once there is knowledge, it takes a lot to wipe it out because it gets passed down one to another. In Christianity, it was being spread to people with no knowledge of either the language or the religion, and knowledge thereafter simply kept only in the hands of the few. In Islam, knowledge is the first thing they want to teach, because its harder to remove knowledge, than it is to enlighten an ignorant person.

a reply to: Kitana
Why do you think Muslims want to rule everything? They have enough land and you sound smart, then racist.

a reply to: DJW001
6 day war was an illegal invasion and created the largest refugee camp in the world at the time and wrought havoc displacing 100,000's of thousands of innocent civilians.

originally posted by: 369elyon
a reply to: Kitana
Why do you think Muslims want to rule everything? They have enough land and you sound smart, then racist.

Do a little bit of research, please. Try googling "caliphate," for example.

originally posted by: 369elyon
a reply to: DJW001
6 day war was an illegal invasion and created the largest refugee camp in the world at the time and wrought havoc displacing 100,00's of thousands of innocent civilians.

The refugee camps were already there because Israel's Arab neighbors wouldn't let their fellow Arabs in for political reasons. That, by the way, is entirely off topic. Please stay focused.

a reply to: DJW001
I know what a caliphate is but who is invading who? Oh yeah, us. We as a country are no better than they are your just being a sheep obeying your masters.

a reply to: DJW001
That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard in my life.

originally posted by: 369elyon
a reply to: DJW001
I know what a caliphate is but who is invading who? Oh yeah, us. We as a country are no better than they are your just being a sheep obeying your masters.

Apparently you have not been following the news: they are all invading each other. As for your ignorance of the region's history, here is an excellent resource, assuming you want to understand instead of just hate:

vispo.com...

??....support social engineering aimed at reforming Islam ?





Reforming ???


Only If 'reforming' meant to actually outlaw radical Jihad that condones murdering non Muslims...
the Sunni Sect seems the most vicious.... the Shia sect less vicious... but the most peaceful would be the Sufi,

they are the only Muslim followers I would trust behind my back (consider the track record of the Asylum seeking Muslims in the EU committing all sorts of criminal activity to their gracious hosts)


fer instance this article:
www.jewishpress.com...

STORY:: Refugees Use German Public Pools as Bathrooms and Worse

a reply to: 369elyon

Gnosisisfaith, that was your name earlier this month, then Essesnce161, then 33Iam666, and today you are 369elyon.

How long do you think you can keep this up?