Not realizing the effect until it effects you, ignorance of the right

Hello. I've come to the conclusion that the typical mind can only empathize with its own personal experience. I've been noticing that people have a harder time looking at the bigger picture or seeing themselves in the shoes of another. I also notice many people that can't understand someone else's circumstances unless what happened to one happens to themselves.

I find this to be odd and all too common. I imagine a world of empathy and connection but what I see in today's world is the total opposite. In fact our lack of connection to one another is so bad that we are even creating technology that attempts to bridge this gap ie social media and the Internet.

The Internet has manifest itself coincidentally during a time when humans were becoming less communal and more individualized.

Ok I'm ranting now.

Too sum it up I am noticing that we seriously lack compassion and connection to one another and that as part of the modern world we need to begin to change this or the world will continue down the path it's on now which is total devolution and a state of totalitarianism where the corporation is now the country.

a reply to: onequestion

I'm pretty shaken up about what is happening.

My hope is that we all want what is best for everybody and simply disagree about the means but, I'm not so sure now.

a reply to: onequestion

You are right.

Stay vigilant. It's reaching critical mass, for sure.

Why do feel that the "right" is the only source of this ignorance?

From what I've seen there is plenty of inability to understand to go around on all sides. People simply do not want to try to understand what others attempt to tell them if it does not agree.

If you are referring even obliquely to that thread about jobs ... I don't think you get it. All of us who were disagreeing DO understand what you are trying to say, that there is a large body of people who will never rise up above.

However, what you don't seem to understand in return is that no matter how you tamper with that base, it will always be the base and since nothing happens in a vacuum, the economy will adjust around any measures you take. So the floor will always be the floor and the basic you think is adequate today will quickly become inadequate again tomorrow and we'll all be back here retreading the same old argument all over.

The only way to even begin to try to address this is with a completely centrally planned economy, and that requires no private ownership of anything - Communism, Fascism, Socialism - likely complete with the types of brutal authoritarian control needed to enforce and maintain them.

We can witness the slow motion train wreck of just such a system right now in Venezuela.

a reply to: greencmp

I'm pretty shaken up about what is happening.

My hope is that we all want what is best for everybody and simply disagree about the means but, I'm not so sure now.

What has brought you to this conclusion, friend?

originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: onequestion

I'm pretty shaken up about what is happening.

My hope is that we all want what is best for everybody and simply disagree about the means but, I'm not so sure now.

I think we do want what is best, but it has come to the point where disagreement may mean violence to eliminate those who won't agree with you.

That frightens me.

I also worry that the system may be falling apart and that brings with it its own attendant problems.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: greencmp

I'm pretty shaken up about what is happening.

My hope is that we all want what is best for everybody and simply disagree about the means but, I'm not so sure now.

What has brought you to this conclusion, friend?

It's hard to describe exactly but, it seems that human society has its own momentum quite separate from what anybody individually might want.

a reply to: onequestion

Did you ever think of yourself other than a victim? I wonder how many people who would be considered wealthy by todays standards started out just as you and felt just as you did?

I am sure there are many, but did they become victims and "bitchers" of the unjust in todays world or did they out think the oppressors and their mind control to become independent and improve their "social status" by working harder and chasing the NUT?

You have worn out the victim status....

a reply to: onequestion

I've lost my innocence in recent months also.

a reply to: ketsuko


I think the left just assumes they are always on the " correct " or " good " side of every issue, because they always assign hatred, racism, or oppression to anyone who differs with them.

No one is on the right side of every issue, only cults and religions think like that.

What one person sees as compassion might actually be enabling and cause more harm than good.

And you may become blind to the people you hurt while in the process of helping others.

Do not mistake a hard but only solution to a problem as evidence that there is the lack of compassion. Societies problem can only be PERMANENTLY resolved by some very difficult choices, behaviors and policies. Bandaging over gangrene puts the infection out of sight and makes you feel better that you can't see it anymore, thus "you fixed it", but surgery and a painful recovery will be required.

a reply to: greencmp

It's hard to describe exactly but, it seems that human society has its own momentum quite separate from what anybody individually might want.

Very interesting comment. You're on to something I think. I need to give this more thought.

a reply to: Noobarino

I think the left just assumes they are always on the " correct " or " good " side of every issue, because they always assign hatred, racism, or oppression to anyone who differs with them.

Wait - did you read some of ketsuko's other posts, about how gays and divorced and unmarried sexual partners and people who otherwise try to live their own lives......about how if they act even when there's no harm to anyone, are bound for hell?

No one is on the right side of every issue, only cults and religions think like that.

Yes! Say that again!!!
Cults and religions.......

What one person sees as compassion might actually be enabling and cause more harm than good.

Hear hear!!!!

And you may become blind to the people you hurt while in the process of helping others.

I think so, too.

a reply to: greencmp

It's hard to describe exactly but, it seems that human society has its own momentum quite separate from what anybody individually might want.

That sounds about right. You may find comfort in knowing that to which direction such momentum is headed cannot be discerned. It wasn't too long ago we were worried about nuclear armageddon, ice ages, famine, refer madness, and so on.

a reply to: seeker1963

Did you ever think of yourself other than a victim? I wonder how many people who would be considered wealthy by todays standards started out just as you and felt just as you did?

No offense to the OP but if you look at the post history, this mentality seems to be pretty prevalent

As to the OP:

This affliction is not just "on the right" this isnt a political condition....

this is a HUMAN condition.....

a reply to: onequestion

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WHO is this "right" you speak of?

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: seeker1963

No offense to the OP but if you look at the post history, this mentality seems to be pretty prevalent

As to the OP:

This affliction is not just "on the right" this isnt a political condition....

this is a HUMAN condition.....

Straighten up, you, you, with no compassion,

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

I do think he has tapped into an undercurrent. He's clearly not the only one who feels it.

a reply to: ketsuko

Victim status is the most lucrative status. It's hot in the media, it's en vogue in academe, and it's the current dogma according the intelligentsia.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

It wasn't too long ago we were worried about nuclear armageddon, ice ages, famine, refer madness,

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