Republican Presidential Debate 1/14/2016

originally posted by: JacKatMtn
a reply to: burntheships

I would have to agree with the substance, I still hate that they tried to bait some into bashing Hillary... that is not needed...

I agree, perhaps since she was left on life support so long ago ...
but no funeral yet ...there are no other Dem contenders?

And yes, she certainly is the establishment, a 1%er
( which I have no problem with aside she gained it by corruption in high office)
and to be honest she is more of a war monger than any one of those Republicans
on the stage. She would just go about it as she did Libya, without Congress
behind the peoples back.

Really looking forward to a debate with her on stage that is not rigged.

a reply to: introvert

The best thing that Obama did was end the Cuba deal...

I was hoping that the NK SK deal would follow... somehow, that was re ignited as a pressure point....

We are talking about a ceasefire agreement older than I have lived....

Doesn't make sense now, perhaps, during the cold war...

We're past that... aren't we all hunky dory, global trade agreement, go green,etc etc...

Why does this still exist? Even China is over it....

Why

I guess it justifies $$$$ flowing to the MIC that Ike warned us about when he left the White House? Not that he was an angel...

We have a legacy of putting folks in charge that do the will of the privileged.... not the people....

It needs to change, I don't have the answer on how to change it...

a reply to: JacKatMtn

Of course NAFTA was horrible, really horrible. Large corporations will always lobby for deals like NAFTA, yes they were proposed and passed into law with Democrat sponsorship but they also passed with silent praise from the GOP. Why would elected officials care about what affects their constituents and spend the time needed to run a successful campaign, when their lobbyists can just spend an hour with them in a limo/restaurant, on a private jet on the way to a paid luxury vacation and donate vast amounts of campaign money?

This is why money shouldn't be considered free speech.

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: yesyesyes

Rubio dances too hard, I'm surprised he didn't collapse from exhaustion.

He is also the biggest hypocrite and sneakiest B$hitter, but that is what appeals to the Establishment.


Trump won't get it , because he is too uncontrollable. At the end of the day if you get Trump against a wall he will throw anyone under the bus to get himself out even if it means sabotaging the end goal and sinking the ship.

He also speaks without thinking of the consequences of what he says. This is dangerous because he could say something they may not want the public to know.

I think they can't control Trump and I think it terrifies them.

Rubio doesn't have "it", Trump and Cruz do IMHO

Did I miss anything?

Even FOX has lost control of it's followers, hence Trump

originally posted by: Xtrozero
Did I miss anything?

Corporate tax breaks

blow up Iran

Grow the military, yet cut spending

Obama is a communist scum who has taken Bush's successes and ran America into a ditch

originally posted by: yesyesyes
Even FOX has lost control of it's followers, hence Trump

I was thinking about this the other day. The Right Wing propaganda has worked so well that they no longer have control over it. I've noticed that even Fox has tried to pull in the reigns on a few issues lately and their attempts are unsuccessful.

They have radicalized people to the point that they are beginning to distrust and turn on one another.

originally posted by: Xtrozero
Did I miss anything?

Trump had a nice new tan, but that's about it.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: yesyesyes
Even FOX has lost control of it's followers, hence Trump

I was thinking about this the other day. The Right Wing propaganda has worked so well that they no longer have control over it. I've noticed that even Fox has tried to pull in the reigns on a few issues lately and their attempts are unsuccessful.

They have radicalized people to the point that they are beginning to distrust and turn on one another.

Thats right. They took it too far and now all references to reality have somehow become one with fantasy.

Everything can be backwards or forwards, you pick!

originally posted by: yesyesyes

originally posted by: Xtrozero
Did I miss anything?

Corporate tax breaks

blow up Iran

Grow the military, yet cut spending

Obama is a communist scum who has taken Bush's successes and ran America into a ditch

Pretty spot one . Although you forgot one. Hillary is the devil.

Well at least they were right about one thing.

a reply to: Kali74

Yep.. that happens on both sides of our current state of politics... they get folks lathered up about decades old divides, get the supporters to carry the torch, fight to the death, on what, in the long run are small issues, while both parties sip champagne and nibble on shrimp, lobster and kobe beef...

Doesn't make sense....

I think the folks here would make better representatives than what we are presented with...

If you spew the message of a party, we see it here...

It's obvious..... some of us fall prey of the bait... be it left or right or the mass in between... and lash out...

Don't do that... there are honest thoughts and intentions from the left AND right... the problem is...

It's US the people... presenting them, willing to talk about, discuss them....

These folks DON"T want discussion, they want the DIVIDE... they want folks to feel comfortable in hurling insults at those who don't follow their indoctrination...

I hope someday we can take control of the dialogue from those who would have us call each other names...

Let's sit down, have a nice meal, and hash through the issues on a personal level, not buy into the memes of those who wouldn't sit down with us in the first place...

YMMV

a reply to: yesyesyes
Agreed to both.. Very Childish to boot. "I hate Obama more than you hate Obama'". "Oh yeah? I hate Hillary more than you hate Hillary"

originally posted by: TheBoomersRBusted
a reply to: yesyesyes
Agreed to both.. Very Childish to boot. "I hate Obama more than you hate Obama'". "Oh yeah? I hate Hillary more than you hate Hillary"

They should of just strung up an Obama doll and equipped them with AR-15s

No speakin, just shooting

lol

same difference

originally posted by: yesyesyes

Corporate tax breaks

blow up Iran

Grow the military, yet cut spending

Obama is a communist scum who has taken Bush's successes and ran America into a ditch

Thank God, I was kind of worried...

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: yesyesyes

Corporate tax breaks

blow up Iran

Grow the military, yet cut spending

Obama is a communist scum who has taken Bush's successes and ran America into a ditch

Thanks God, I was kind of worried...

All is good man, all is good

originally posted by: interupt42

Pretty spot one . Although you forgot one. Hillary is the devil.

Well at least they were right about one thing.

Devil, naw...Evil bitch yes, but that is about it...

a reply to: yesyesyes

I don't get the Obama hate = Hillary hate...

The President was elected, and reelected ... he's served his time..

I would think the last thing that Obama would want is to have his legacy tainted by Hillary's effort...

The closer they are tied together, the more tainted his Presidency is?

Was Hillary as Sec State .... Obama's biggest mistake?

Something to ponder.....

originally posted by: JacKatMtn

Was Hillary as Sec State .... Obama's biggest mistake?

Something to ponder.....

I think it was one of his biggest mistakes, no clue as to why unless it was dictated by George Soros as part of his long range plan.

originally posted by: JacKatMtn
a reply to: yesyesyes

I don't get the Obama hate = Hillary hate...

The President was elected, and reelected ... he's served his time..

I would think the last thing that Obama would want is to have his legacy tainted by Hillary's effort...

The closer they are tied together, the more tainted his Presidency is?

Was Hillary as Sec State .... Obama's biggest mistake?

Something to ponder.....

I have no idea, really

I think morality depends upon the team you are rooting for, that is how we are played like simpletons.

I bet Obama can't wait to get out of the lime light, a thing I never thought I would say...