Patriots TEAR DOWN Illegal Gov. Fence at OregonFront!

apparently these militia dudes are asking people to send them stuff. supplies and such
someone sent them a back of penises(sounds better when you use the D word)

hahahahahahaha
love it cause thats exactly what they are.
not patriots

www.huffingtonpost.com...

The group -- which has been dubbed Y'All Qaeda and Vanilla ISIS on social media -- has been calling on sympathetic members of the public to send in the supplies a band of hardened survivalists need, such as French vanilla coffee creamer, Miracle Whip, hair conditioner and pillowcases

originally posted by: TinySickTears
apparently these militia dudes are asking people to send them stuff. supplies and such
someone sent them a back of penises(sounds better when you use the D word)

hahahahahahaha
love it cause thats exactly what they are.
not patriots

www.huffingtonpost.com...

The group -- which has been dubbed Y'All Qaeda and Vanilla ISIS on social media -- has been calling on sympathetic members of the public to send in the supplies a band of hardened survivalists need, such as French vanilla coffee creamer, Miracle Whip, hair conditioner and pillowcases

Yeah that is great. All these people sending them sex toys. He is just clueless that the American people find him and his kind to be a joke. Their own delusions of grandeur had lead them to this public face palm. You would think by now they would get a clue. Nobody wants these idiots "helping" them.

originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: Phage

It really doesn't matter what the law is at this point, You behave as if the government is not corrupt.

It's a fact that our government uses strong arm tactics to take, take, take, for whatever reason.

This is what Kings do. More is not enough for these corrupt people, don't you agree?

If this stand-off is intact an attempt to decapitate the federal government, I would suggest these are 3,000 miles from where they should be.

Until that time, we are a nation of laws and we should all be subject to laws equally.

originally posted by: MrSpad


Yeah that is great. All these people sending them sex toys. He is just clueless that the American people find him and his kind to be a joke. Their own delusions of grandeur had lead them to this public face palm. You would think by now they would get a clue. Nobody wants these idiots "helping" them.

agreed.
i am not in the 'they are patriots' crowd.
i am in the 'they are a big bag o peckers' crowd.
big veiny ones. veins the size of rubber tubes

originally posted by: TinySickTears
apparently these militia dudes are asking people to send them stuff. supplies and such
someone sent them a back of penises(sounds better when you use the D word)

hahahahahahaha
love it cause thats exactly what they are.
not patriots

Hilarious, like seriously just hilarious!

If only I had an address for the people that sent the "sex toys"... so I could send them a case of beers, just for being so blatantly awesome.

lol, that really made my day. If only there was a youtube video of when they first opened the package... absolute classic!

a reply to: Rocker2013

It seems to me the biggest problem is that far too many right-wing Americans seem to have a confused notion about democracy and government.

So what you are implying is Americans who do not like government corruption are Right - Wingers, interesting label.

You couldn't be any further from the truth. You call our country a democracy?

Where have you been in the last decade?

The fact is, The United States is far from a democracy, with an over grown powerful government that no longer works for We The People.

The government has become part of the 1%, they believe they are not accountable for their corruption.
Our government in Washington have been very busy doing the bidding of the world elite specially after 911, for example passing unconstitutional laws against the American people, and taking our freedoms away in the guise of Terrorism, the very terrorists that they created and funded.

It is a fact that our governments have help outsource our jobs and industries to the globalist while stripping our economy, and causing wide spread unemployment across the Nation.
Our government forced so much regulations on our industries, that they had to leave the country.

It is a fact that most of our government in Washington turned a blind eye of the massive illegals pouring in over our open boarders.

There are no jobs for the millions of illegals coming into our country, it's bad enough that many Americans cannot find work.

So our government bleeds the American citizens with more taxes to house, feed, and pay these illegals medical bills.

The fact is, The United States is turning into a third world county and is growing worst every day. Kids thousands of them graduating from collage have to move home with mom and dad because they are so far in debt, cannot find work, much less afford to rent an apartment.

The Realer state in the United States has plummeted, because of the illegals scams that the banks and Lending companies got away with and are still doing it, and the plummeted economy didn't help either.

You want to talk about your freedoms that you think you have?

NSA spying on all Americans, on your internet, your cell phones, your TV's, cameras everywhere, many with facial recognition software, The police now using BEWAER a new software that are now color coded green, yellow, or red deeming you either hostile enemy or green meaning your not a threat.

Then there is the TSA agents, that enjoy harassing, interrogating, and strip searching, you and your children and groping your privets in front of everyone in all of our airports. Making many Americans feeling humiliated.

You think you have free speech, think again. Anything you can say can be deem a threat these days.

This is not a Democracy, it is a form of Socialism.

So feel free to call me a right-wing American that is confused, because I don't support the political corruption and the way things are in America today.

a reply to: Informer1958

So basically going by your posts, its fair to assume that you're a conservative American who is against both capitalism and socialism, right?

You're passionately for the US constitution, but anti-federal government... like honestly dude, I don't want to mess with the ATS T & C here, but are you seriously on the meth or something?

You seriously come across as somebody who has a mission, but doesn't know what direction there heading in.

originally posted by: MrSpad

originally posted by: TinySickTears
apparently these militia dudes are asking people to send them stuff. supplies and such
someone sent them a back of penises(sounds better when you use the D word)

hahahahahahaha
love it cause thats exactly what they are.
not patriots

www.huffingtonpost.com...

The group -- which has been dubbed Y'All Qaeda and Vanilla ISIS on social media -- has been calling on sympathetic members of the public to send in the supplies a band of hardened survivalists need, such as French vanilla coffee creamer, Miracle Whip, hair conditioner and pillowcases

Yeah that is great. All these people sending them sex toys. He is just clueless that the American people find him and his kind to be a joke. Their own delusions of grandeur had lead them to this public face palm. You would think by now they would get a clue. Nobody wants these idiots "helping" them.

I'm part of the Ameican people and I totally disagree with you so why don't you just stick to speaking for yourself?

You know I'm sick of reading and hearing the hyocrasy coming from all sides.

I support them, bring down the oligarchy and corporate overlords while their at it too. The military industrial complex included.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

So basically going by your posts, its fair to assume that you're a conservative American who is against both capitalism and socialism, right?

I never said that. I am against all the corruption and the no accountability in our leadership.

The political illegal scandals in Washington ,the lies, the cover ups, the Benghazi cover ups, Hillary's emails, Passing Legislation without reading it, Obama passing unconstitutional laws without Congress, the Feds over stepping their boundaries, spying on all the American citizens and so forth.

You're passionately for the US constitution, but anti-federal government... like honestly dude, I don't want to mess with the ATS T & C here, but are you seriously on the meth or something?

I am not anti government, I am just pointing out the obvious which many Americans will not except as true. Do I have an answer on how to solve these issues, no.

The United States has been hijacked by global corporatism, and the fact we are no longer a Republic. Most Americans don't know that.

You seriously come across as somebody who has a mission, but doesn't know what direction there heading in.

I have no mission here, I just like to tell it like it is.

Many people don't like what I have to say sometimes, and I expect that, it's not my intention to hurt peoples feelings.

a reply to: Informer1958

The United States has been hijacked by global corporatism, and the fact we are no longer a Republic. Most Americans don't know that

America is currently a capitalist democracy... Conservative Americans have chosen that form of government, over any kind of socialism... so maybe you should just reap the seeds you sowed yourself.

I am not anti government, I am just pointing out the obvious which many Americans will not except as true.

You sound anti-federal government to me... blindly believing the Constitution is some kind of higher power... well claiming the Government which upholds the Constitution should be over run by greedy militias.

I have no mission here, I just like to tell it like it is.

Many people don't like what I have to say sometimes, and I expect that, it's not my intention to hurt peoples feelings.

Oh bother, its not about hurting feelings... its about making some kind of rational sense, which you have not done, so far.

Your just ignorantly justifying the actions of some freeloading ranchers, who want to earn money from land that does not belong to them.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

BLM grazing permits are not free.

Ranchers pay for the rights.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Subaeruginosa
Ranchers pay for the rights.

The bundy's didn't pay for the right, apparently they hooked up over 300 hundred armed individuals to force the federal government into allowing them to graze National parks, free of charge!.. Being the bunch of freeloaders they are.

Well most Americans work there arses off in dead end jobs everyday and are still prepared to pay taxes for the ridiculously low amount they earn.

seriously... who's the real patriots here?

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

The BLM failed at Bunkerville because they botched up the cattle roundup.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

I find it funny when you call ranchers free loaders.

Yet another joker.

originally posted by: onequestion

originally posted by: MrSpad

originally posted by: TinySickTears
apparently these militia dudes are asking people to send them stuff. supplies and such
someone sent them a back of penises(sounds better when you use the D word)

hahahahahahaha
love it cause thats exactly what they are.
not patriots

www.huffingtonpost.com...

The group -- which has been dubbed Y'All Qaeda and Vanilla ISIS on social media -- has been calling on sympathetic members of the public to send in the supplies a band of hardened survivalists need, such as French vanilla coffee creamer, Miracle Whip, hair conditioner and pillowcases

Yeah that is great. All these people sending them sex toys. He is just clueless that the American people find him and his kind to be a joke. Their own delusions of grandeur had lead them to this public face palm. You would think by now they would get a clue. Nobody wants these idiots "helping" them.

I'm part of the Ameican people and I totally disagree with you so why don't you just stick to speaking for yourself?

You know I'm sick of reading and hearing the hyocrasy coming from all sides.

I support them, bring down the oligarchy and corporate overlords while their at it too. The military industrial complex included.

You support them doing what? Going where they were not invited? Fighting with other groups for to get the most air time? Making the locals angry? Vandalism? Saying stupid things like they were sent by God? Making the entire thing about them so that nobody talks about the people that had the problem. That the people they claim to want to help do not want them? Who would support that? They are a joke and they have no one to blame but themselves.

a reply to: MrSpad

I'm sorry I can't read people picking apart every little detail of something.

I can however understand when a group of people are frustrated enough to do something about it while risking their lives in the process.

It might be hard to understand from the keyboard.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

America is currently a capitalist democracy... Conservative Americans have chosen that form of government, over any kind of socialism... so maybe you should just reap the seeds you sowed yourself.

Is that what you believe? I can demonstrate your beliefs are not the facts here.

Lets look here to what was posted on the internet just today.


Princeton Study Says U.S. No Longer An Actual Democracy

A groundbreaking study from Princeton University is causing a lot of controversy, but its findings are undeniable.

The university study explain that U.S. democracy is pure fiction. That is, the researchers explain, it simply does not exist.

The scholars behind the study asked the question: “[w]ho really rules?”

Researchers Martin Gilens along with Benjamin I. Page concluded that over the past few decades in particular, the U.S. political system has gradually changed in a way that has warped the Democratic Republic into a nearly pure oligarchy, where the elite 1% rule with almost total influence and control over the government and even police state apparatus.

The researchers drew data from over 1,800 different policy initiatives dating from 1981 to 2002. They concluded that wealthy, well-connected families are the ones who steer the direction of nearly everything politically in the United States.

“The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy,” they explain, “while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence.”

Gilens and Page compare and contrast the political preferences of those at the 50th income percentile to preferences of those at the 90th percentile in addition to major lobbying or business groups.

The pair found that regardless of whether one is Republican or Democratic was of no significant difference. The results showed that more often than not, policy followed the interests of corporations and the 1%.

The research notes recent Supreme Court decisions that allow more money in politics – pointing to this as a likely factor in this transformation into an oligarchy – stretching back to the 1980s.

“Ordinary citizens,” they explain, “might often be observed to ‘win’ (that is, to get their preferred policy outcomes) even if they had no independent effect whatsoever on policy making, if elites (with whom they often agree) actually prevail.”

countercurrentnews.com...#

So there you have it.

You sound anti-federal government to me... blindly believing the Constitution is some kind of higher power...

The fact is the Constitution is the Supreme Law of our Country. What is it that you do not understand?

well claiming the Government which upholds the Constitution should be over run by greedy militias.

The fact is Obama has not been upholding the Constitution, on the contrary, he has used dictatorial power bypassing Congress to pass certain laws, and any constitutional lawyer will tell you that the few laws Obama passed using executive powers were unconstitutional. So please don't preach to me how our government upholds the Constitution.

I don't know what kind propaganda you are reading or watching on propaganda mainstream media to where you have been getting your information from.

I never made any claim that the militia should over run the government, what I have post is We The People need the militia sometimes to push back when the government has over step their boundaries against We The People.

I would like to clear up your misunderstanding to what the militia is, the militia are working Americans with families and many have their own business. The hard core fact is, they are not a bunch of free loading greedy people who want to overthrow our government.

Apparently you have no idea to what you are talking about.

Oh bother, its not about hurting feelings... its about making some kind of rational sense, which you have not done, so far.

If you cannot understand the rationality to what I have posted then this tells me you have very little knowledge or understanding of this topic.

Your just ignorantly justifying the actions of some freeloading ranchers

Freeloading Ranchers? You are sadly mistaken, the fact is these men worked all their lives on their own Ranches trying to make an honest living.

who want to earn money from land that does not belong to them.

That is completely untrue, these Ranchers have owned their land for many generations, some over a hundred years and many of these Ranchers have grandfather clause in their land deeds that our government love to ignore, while trying to take away hard working Americans properties that is not the governments to begin with.

Please tell me how these Ranchers are trying to make money on land that is not theirs?

a reply to: Informer1958

I had to stop reading your post.

First off you make too much sense. I don't care how logical your position on this subject is or have many sources you have to back it up I feel really emotional about this topic.

These free loading hippy communist ranchers want to raise cattle without the federal government coming in and trumping up a bunch of charges and instituting life altering punishments in order to be able to bid on land we basically strong armed.

I'm just pissed these free loading hippy communsist bastards are willing to fight for a cause.

a reply to: onequestion

I'm just pissed these free loading hippy communsist bastards are willing to fight for a cause.

I know, right.

Can you imagine...

Having been paying attention to the antics of the people and the standoff there are a few things that should be noted:

The local people of that area do not want them there. The Ranchers that they were there to support do not want their help. The oath keepers, and other militia organizations have disavowed any help or support for this group, and unlike Nevada, the politicians are not coming out to support them, or give then any sort of support. In short this group is facing a losing battle, ill timed and ill prepared and ultimately one that the Federal government is hoping will end with a whimper instead of a bang.

These men there, think that they are doing the right thing, failing to see that they have no support, no one in the area is wanting to support them. More and more they are receiving hate mail and ultimately it is getting people to ask questions that they did not want to be asked. Personally I think that after they leave, that people should go back and put those fences back up, except put a few volts into the wires, raise the stakes on such, where it starts to harass, and wear down their resolve.