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Kennedy Assassination: How Hoover ratted out the CIA, and almost caused a World war or Civil war.

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posted on Jan, 6 2016 @ 09:49 PM
From various sources

Apparently the September 27-28, 1963 sojourn of a Lee Oswald at the Cuba and Russian
Embassy in Mexico City where he went slightly crazy trying to get Visas into Russia and
Associated himself with the KGB assassination and terror chief was all taped by the CIA
in order to 1) frame Lee Harvey Oswald, Russia and Cuba as the assassins of Kennedy,
and or 2) Make it look like Oswald was a lone nut assassin.

In other words whatever worked, or whatever the CIA could get away with.

The tapes were doctored by the CIA to frame the three: Oswald, the Cubans and
Russians as the plotters of the assassination of Kennedy...

J Edgar Hoover, the head of the FBI, though, also had a copy of these tapes and knew that the person who
was claiming to be Oswald on those tapes in Mexico City on Sept 27, 28 wasn’t the
Oswald that was in custody in Dallas for killing Kennedy and eventually murdered by
Jack Ruby.

J Edgar therefore knew that the CIA had doctored the tapes and were trying to frame Oswald, the Russians, and the
Cubans for killing the president.

When the new President, Lyndon Johnson consulted with the CIA chief, John McCone( who had taken over from ex-CIA director Allen Dulles who Kennedy had recently fired) McCone proceeded to basically lie to Johnson and claim they had tapes that the Russians, Cubans and Oswald had conspired in Mexico City to kill Kennedy.

Naturally, This really upset Johnson

Lo and beheld, J. Edgar Hoover told Johnson straight forwardly that those tapes
were doctored by someone and that the Lee Oswald in Mexico City was not the one
accused of killing Kennedy and the one Murdered by Jack Ruby

He let Johnson figure out for himself what was going on. Of course at that point a child
could have deduced that the CIA was trying to persuade Johnson that the Russians,
Cubans, and Oswald were the guilty party's in the assassination of Kennedy and were likely
in the middle of the murder themselves.


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posted on Jan, 6 2016 @ 09:57 PM
Johnson at that point had three choices: start a world war with Russia for
murdering the president that might end up with 50 million dead Americans, if he was to
take the CIA doctored evidence at face value, he obviously presumed they were trying to
get him to do this.

Or he could take the truth of what J. Edgar Hoover had told him and go against the CIA
and start some kind of civil war, since the Hoover evidence showed the
CIA likely were involved with killing Kennedy and were manipulating a scapegoat, Oswald, to take the fall in their assassination of the president.

That would have brought the country to an incredibly dire situation: the CIA and
Military against the FBI, federal police and maybe the secret service in a civil war with
unprecedented results.

Or the third choice, Johnson could just cover it all up and frame Oswald as a scapegoat. Given to him on a silver platter with CIA doctored evidence.

Johnson was a good friend of Hoover. That’s why Hoover likely told him the truth
originally so he could make his decision.

Hoover eventually chose to go along with the cover up….

When the CIA lied and said they had destroyed these tapes to cover its tracks when they knew were boxed in by Hoover, Hoover let them get away with it so the Oswald as scapegoat frame-up could be enacted and the country could move on.

Johnson went and hired the Warren commission to perform the cover up by telling the unwilling commissioners that if not the country might go to war with Russia in a nuclear conflagration.

So Oswald was framed, murdered and the real executioners of Kennedy got away scot free

posted on Jan, 6 2016 @ 10:12 PM
a reply to: Willtell

So Oswald was framed, murdered and the real executioners of Kennedy got away scot free

And one of the real executioners unbeknownst to the CIA was Johnson himself.

What a tangled web huh?

No source?
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posted on Jan, 7 2016 @ 12:30 AM
a reply to: Willtell

I want to read this but it's written like the ramblings of a mad man.
Sentences people.....Sentences.

posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 05:50 AM
There's so many theories as to who killed JFK and why, it's not funny. Johnson and the CIA were involved that is pretty well a given but the reason is still a grey area, too many speculations.

Here is another one:

posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 06:38 AM
lots of sources. I've seen a lot of the evidence(or lack thereof) from the JFK assassination compiled in various places, as well as here at ATS, over the years...some is very compelling, but none is convincing. The fact of the matter is that only those involved truly know what happened...and they will likely take those secrets to their graves, if they haven't already.


posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 04:20 AM



This fits in perfectly with the "Oswald Twin Theory".

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